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FILMING AT MEETINGS Please note this meeting may be filmed or recorded by the Council for live or subsequent broadcast via the Council’s internet site or by anyone attending the meeting using any communication method. Although we ask members of the public recording, filming or reporting on the meeting not to include the public seating areas, members of the public attending the meeting should be aware that we cannot guarantee that they will not be filmed or recorded by others attending the meeting. Members of the public participating in the meeting (e.g. making deputations, asking questions, making oral protests) should be aware that they are likely to be filmed, recorded or reported on. By entering the meeting room and using the public seating area, you are consenting to being filmed and to the possible use of those images and sound recordings.
The Chair of the meeting has the discretion to terminate or suspend filming or recording, if in his or her opinion continuation of the filming, recording or reporting would disrupt or prejudice the proceedings, infringe the rights of any individual, or may lead to the breach of a legal obligation by the Council. Minutes: The Chair referred to the filming of meetings and this information was noted.
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APOLOGIES FOR ABSENCE (IF ANY) To receive any apologies for absence. Minutes: Apologies had been received from Councillor Johnson.
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URGENT BUSINESS The Chair will consider the admission of late items of urgent business. Late items will be considered under the agenda item they appear. New items will be dealt with at item 11 below. Minutes: There were none.
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DECLARATIONS OF INTEREST A member with a personal interest in a matter who attends a meeting of the authority at which the matter is considered must disclose to that meeting the existence and nature of that interest at the commencement of that consideration, or when the consideration becomes apparent.
A member with a personal interest in a matter also has a prejudicial interest in that matter the interest is one which a member of the public with knowledge of the relevant facts would reasonably regard as so significant that it is likely to prejudice the member’ judgement of the public interest. Minutes: There were no declarations of interest. |
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Minutes: Mr Richard Hutton, Performance, Data and Analytics Manager, introduced the report.
The meeting heard:
· Occasionally, there may be a situation where care proceedings may be in progress. In such a situation, a parent might be placed in a parent and child foster placement. In that scenario, the child may be then placed with parents, or perhaps at the end of proceedings, a child may go home with a parent in a community. It was at the conclusion of that process whereby an assessment could be undertaken and the assessment would be called a ‘placement with parents’ assessment. · An annual report was produced on EHCPs that had been refused assessment or issue. This had been done for the last two years and was used to track and monitor progress and to make sure that decision making was robust. This had been validated in the SEND inspection so the methodology being applyed was likely correct. In the last 12 months, of all of the plans that had been refused issue or assessment, the main reasons included children having had moved out of borough (the multi-agency panel felt that there was more that could be done to support children's needs through the ordinary offer of education), children (or young people) had moved into employment or training, or that there was not enough information. All of this analysis was shared with headteachers so that they were aware of the reasons and how it compared to statistical neighbours and benchmarking. If any issue or assessments were refused, a Next Steps meeting was offered. This could look at why the decision had been made, but also how they could be supported through the ordinary offer of education. This was generally done with the education provider and the person that had made the referral. · There were two panels. One that focused on children in care and that would include some who had EHCP plans. There was also another panel which had SEND power on it and they received regular reports. Further information could be provided to members outside the meeting. · Prior to the coronavirus crisis, the number of children in care used to be quite high. Before the crisis, a lot of young people would arrive into the country in various methods. Since the crisis, people used other means to come into the country - by the seas - and so this had changed the numbers that came through to Haringey. There was also a national transfer scheme. Prior to the crisis, London was a high recipient of young people who were unaccompanied asylum seekers and there was an equation that stated that local authorities should receive 0.7% of the number of children in care. They needed to be unaccompanied asylum seekers. This then changed to 0.1% of the child population, but the children or young people were distributed across the country. So many were going past London to other places. · The point of the threshold was for Haringey to be able to show that it had ... view the full minutes text for item 15. |
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WHAT DOES CARE MEAN? Minutes: Ms Sandy Bansil, Service Manager, Safeguarding & Social Care, introduced the report. · In relation to reciprocal housing (where a reciprocal housing arrangement was not an option, a young person could be supported to find private rented accommodation), the duty remained with Haringey even if the accommodation was outside the borough. The person would have an allocated personal adviser from the young adult service that would support them up to the age of 25. · In terms of assessing the risk to someone that was coming out of custody, there would always be joint working with the Youth Justice Service. This would look at any intelligence collected Police and Youth Justice colleagues to make sure that the right places were being looked at for a child to live. · In relation to young people being released from prison having location and post code challenges, it was not generic post code challenges, but specifically to do with who they had associated with and who they were known to. This would be considered before placing a child out of remand. · In relation to supporting care leavers at university, young people would be supported at degree level. However, if they chose to go on to further education it would be ensured that continuous support while allowing students access to key stage experts would be given. The approach aimed to provide stability while incorporating specialized knowledge at different educational stages. · RESOLVED:
To note the report.
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CARE LEAVING IN LONDON Additional documents:
Minutes: Mr Matthew Raleigh, Programme Lead for London Innovation and Improvement Alliance introduced the report.
· In relation to the role of housing associations, the housing stakeholder group had a few key activities including to get better collaboration across the work of local authorities and housing associations including leveraging better offers from housing associations. Work would be done with them on a London wide scale. A pilot would be launched in Bromley to see what a best practice co-design approach between a local authority and a housing association would look like. This learning would be shared with other local authorities. · The spending on per care leaver over different local authorities would vary. Some would make positive transitions into adulthood and need relatively little support, other may need complex placements and ongoing support which may be costly. There would be benchmarking data, but it would be easier to look at set-up within each council. There was an arrangement of personal advisors and social workers, but it was difficult to find a regular unit cost for the provision of services. It was possible that one local authority had more resources than another. · Concerns were raised about the role of housing associations, particularly when individuals with nomination rights were placed with providers that were not local authorities. It was noted that such situations could become complicated due to a lack of understanding of residents' experiences and needs. The discussion highlighted the importance of engaging with major housing associations to address these issues. · In response, it was acknowledged that while a perfect solution was not yet in place, efforts were underway to improve collaboration between local authorities and housing associations. A housing stakeholder group was actively working to strengthen these connections and secure better support from housing providers. Clarion and MVTH were participating in the group, and a pilot project was being launched between Clarion and Bromley Council to develop a best-practice model for cooperation between local authorities and housing associations. The outcomes of this pilot would be shared with other councils and housing associations across London. · Additionally, a question was raised regarding variations in care leaver budgets among different local authorities. While specific figures were not readily available, it was noted that costs could vary significantly depending on the level of support required. Some care leavers transitioned smoothly into adulthood with minimal intervention, while others required complex placements and ongoing assistance, leading to higher costs. Further insights into overall care leaver budgets were expected from relevant stakeholders within the Council. · Lambeth was specifically cited, prompting questions about its relevance and the broader role of the London Innovation and Improvement Alliance (LEA). It was established as one of nine regional innovation and improvement alliances funded by the Department for Education (DfE). While the Care Leaver work began in 2021, the LEA itself had been formed earlier.
RESOLVED:
To note the report.
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Additional documents: Minutes: Mr Matthew Knights, Head of Service, Youth at Risk and Ms Jackie Difolco, Director of Early Help, Prevention & SEND introduced the report.
· It was frustrating when speaking with BCUs to fight for children in terms of ensuring that they were getting the respective services they needed. Despite the difficulties, a strong working relationship had been maintained with police colleagues, particularly the missing persons team. They had played a crucial role in challenging counterparts in other BCUs to ensure missing children were still reported appropriately. However, the matter remained an ongoing discussion and, at times, a struggle. Efforts were being made to collaborate with police officials to prevent similar situations from occurring in the future, although they had already happened multiple times. · A discussion was held on the placement of children supported by the Youth Justice Service (YJS), noting that a small percentage remained within the borough. It was acknowledged that when children formerly in the Council’s care were placed far from Haringey, responsibility was usually relinquished. However, if they were placed in neighbouring boroughs, the Council retained oversight. · Efforts were made to ensure that children placed within London continued to receive home visits and regular assessments. The Council maintained oversight of their progress, working in partnership to guarantee appropriate support. Escalation procedures were in place for cases where other youth justice services failed to provide adequate assistance. This priority was embedded in the Council's strategic plan, with operational oversight conducted monthly to track all children outside the borough but still under local responsibility. · Further discussion reflected on the complexity of the youth justice system and the significant resources allocated to support a small but high-need cohort. The importance of early intervention, including speech and language support, was emphasised. Concerns were expressed regarding systemic challenges and the difficulties in preventing vulnerable young people from falling through the cracks. Despite these challenges, recognition was given to the service for producing a strong report, with appreciation extended for the efforts made to improve outcomes for these young people.
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VERBAL UPDATE - OFSTED FOCUSED VISIT Minutes:
RESOLVED:
To note the report.
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ANY OTHER BUSINESS Minutes: There were none.
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