Draft minutes

Crouch End, Hornsey and Stroud Green Area Forum and Committee
Thursday, 21st May, 2009 7.30 pm

Contact: Sharon Annafi  4928

Items
No. Item

1.

Welcome & introductory comments from Cllr Lyn Weber, Chair of the Area Assembly

Minutes:

Councillor Weber welcomed everyone to the meeting of the Area Assembly on the subject of transport provision in Crouch End, Hornsey and Stroud Green.

 

The Chair briefly explained the publicity restrictions currently in place due to electoral law rules associated with the forthcoming European elections.

 

Cllr Gorrie advised the Assembly of the sad death of local community activist Jeanette Rogers on 1st April 2009. Jeanette had played an active and important role in local issues for a number of years, reflected in representation at her funeral from a number of community groups and organisations including the Police and local schools.

 

2.

Chair's Report

Minutes:

Hornsey Town Hall

The Chair advised that a public exhibition of the plans for the future of the building would be held from 12-18 June in the Town Hall, following a launch on 11 June 2009. Further information could be found on both the Hornsey Town Hall and the Council’s websites.

 

Greening event

The Chair advised of the greening event on 2 June 2009 at Shepherds Hill Gardens to re-establish them as part of the build up to the Better Haringey Green Fair on Saturday 13 June.

 

Business and enterprise

The meeting was advised of the support offered to local businesses to encourage them to take advantage of opportunities available through the procurement process for Olympics 2012 business, centred on an event held at CONEL and information packs distributed to local businesses.

 

Tennis lessons

The Assembly were advised of a programme of free tennis lessons to be held throughout the borough on 25 May 2009, from 10am-noon, with the event held locally at Highgate Cricket Club. 

 

3.

TRANSPORT PROVISION IN CROUCH END, HORNSEY AND STROUD GREEN

Minutes:

(a)   Introduction to Haringey’s Partnership working on transport issues – Joan Hancox, Head of Sustainable Transport, Haringey Council.

 

The Assembly was advised of the continuing importance of sustainable transport both at a local and national level. The Council submits bids to Transport for London (TfL) for funding under a number of categories, each with varying criteria to be met, which can impact negatively on delivery. This funding system will potentially be relaxed next year to make it easier for local authorities to gain funds and to use them more flexibly although the importance of prioritising transport projects was emphasised to ensure the limited available funds are allocated appropriately throughout the borough.

 

Regular meetings are held between the council, TfL and transport operating companies and a Haringey Transport Forum has been created as a public forum where transport issues can be considered at a strategic level. The next meeting of the Forum is 22 June at Bernie Grants Centre.

 

(b)  Trains and stations –

·  Moorgate to Alexandra Palace – presentation from First Capital Connect.

 

Representatives from First Capital Connect explained that improvement and regeneration work was required to the network and that future opportunities would be provided through linking in with the Thameslink development programme. This would include connection of the Great Northern route to the Thameslink network at St Pancras to open up the network and allow capacity to be increased through the introduction of new trains. In addition, a programme of station refurbishments, the staged introduction of new rolling stock as well as the scheduling of additional trains under the new timetable would be achieved in the interim.

 

In response to a question regarding Freedom passes not being accepted on the First Capital Connect network before 9.30 am, confirmation was provided that all national train operators operated the same time restrictions.

 

Information was also sought regarding when the Oyster card readers installed at certain stations on the network would become operational. The Assembly was advised of ongoing negotiations with TfL, originally scheduled to complete in September but due to the complexity of issues regarding revenue collection by franchise companies, had been subject to delay.     

 

·  Gospel Oak to Barking – presentation from LOROL (London Overground Rail Operations Ltd.)

 

Representatives from LOROL explained that the company had taken over responsibility for the network on behalf of TfL from Silverlink in 2007 and had put in place an improvement programme including:

  • Construction of the East London line due to open in 2010
  • All stations now manned and a programme of station improvements in place
  • Network coverage by the Oyster system
  • Improvements to health and safety and revenue collection
  • New rolling stock introduced from summer 2009 with 25% capacity increase
  • Frequency of service – increased on the Gospel Oak to Barking line with a 4 trains an hour service to be introduced from 2010.

Confirmation was provided that the operator currently had no plans for electrification of the Gospel Oak line, although consideration of this would be undertaken at  ...  view the full minutes text for item 3.

4.

Workshop Discussions

Minutes:

The meeting divided into three workshops to map local transport issues.

 

Workshop one – feedback provided from Cllr Gorrie.

Main issues:

·      Human interface with transport e.g. noise, lighting.

·      Interface between types/modes of transport e.g. parking and bus routes, cycle storage at stations.

 

Workshop two – feedback from Cllr Winskill.

Main issues:

·      Information systems - count down systems not operational/provided at many bus stops and the need for more on board information on the W3 when the route splits.

·      Congestion – especially on Rokesly Avenue and Elmfield and in general buses being to large for London streets.

·      Planning – 91 bus route not linking in with Hornsey High Street and the lack of a unified stop outside Hornsey Town Hall.

 

Workshop three – feedback from Cllr Wilson.

Main issues:

·      W3 bus – the obstruction caused by parked cars, some dangerous junctions e.g. Ferme Park Road, improvements to the frequency of buses in the morning.

·      W5 – lack of fixed stops can be problematic.

·      Trains – more details of train schedules on Quernmore Road so passengers don’t have to go down to the platform to get information. 

 

5.

Panel discussion and questions to Haringey Council decision makers

Minutes:

Residents were invited to question the panel and Cabinet Member for Environment and Conservation on issues raised during the meeting and received the following responses: 

 

Crouch Hill station: in response to a query about accommodation for staff at the station, confirmation was provided that the small cabin currently on site was scheduled to be replaced with improved facilities. Staffing at the station would be maintained.

 

Base service: a resident queried how the base service of a train every 15 minutes on the Alexandra Palace to Moorgate line would be achieved. It was explained that the aspiration was for a 4 trains an hour service instead of 3, with signal improvements between Drayton Park and Moorgate helping to address capacity issues. In addition, 12 new trains were due to be received from LOROL.

 

Station staffing consultation: an update was requested following the consultation on ticket office opening hours and potential reductions in staffing cover. The Assembly were advised that the proposals had been opposed by Unions and that discussions with TfL were ongoing to develop compromise proposals.  

 

Controlled Parking Zones (CPZs): concerns were raised regarding the Finsbury Park CPZ and future options for the underused Oakfield Bridge area. The Cabinet Member confirmed that a review of existing CPZs would be undertaken on a borough wide basis in the future although had not been scheduled as yet due to policy considerations. The review would enable underused areas not located next to residential units to be converted back to pay and display zones.

Residents also queried the amount of signage used in CPZs, particularly on borough boundaries. It was explained that this was to ensure CPZs were appropriately identified and that signage at regular intervals was required by law to ensure the CPZ was enforceable. 

 

Road surfacing: feedback to be provided regarding the surfacing of Park Road, Crouch End especially outside Queenswood Surgery following a complaint regarding its condition.

 

Road safety: in response to concerns raised regarding the lack of crossing facilities between Tottenham Lane and Ferme Park Road, confirmation was provided that the area would be subject to a local safety scheme.

 

Crouch End signage: confirmation was provided that the ‘look left’ and ‘look right’ road signage would be replaced on the resurfaced raised areas of road in central Crouch End.

 

Lighting: a number of residents and the local residents’ association had raised concerns regarding the lighting on Stapleton Hall Road. Provision had been enhanced to the north end of the road but not to the remainder. The Cabinet Member advised that an additional £2 million had been allocated for lighting improvements, with a programme in place to renew lighting across the borough.

 

Bus priority traffic lights: in response to a question regarding whether these could be used in the UK, it was advised that TfL had responsibility for traffic lights and that the scheme would have to be examined to assess if it would be successful in this country.

 

6.

Soapbox

Minutes:

Not taken at this meeting.

7.

Date of next meeting

Minutes:

The next meeting would be held on 16July 2009. Residents were invited to contact the Neighbourhood Manager with any specific requests for agenda items for the meeting.