Agenda and minutes

Budget Scrutiny, Overview and Scrutiny Committee
Wednesday, 5th January, 2011 4.00 pm, NEW

Venue: Civic Centre, High Road, Wood Green, N22 8LE. View directions

Contact: Natalie Cole  2919

Media

Items
No. Item

145.

Webcasting

Please note: This meeting may be filmed for live or subsequent broadcast via the Council's internet site - at the start of the meeting the Chair will confirm if all or part of the meeting is being filmed. The images and sound recording may be used for training purposes within the Council.

 

Generally the public seating areas are not filmed. However, by entering the meeting room and using the public seating area, you are consenting to being filmed and to the possible use of those images and sound recordings for webcasting and/or training purposes.

 

If you have any queries regarding this, please contact the Committee Clerk

at the meeting.

 

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NOTED the meeting was recorded for future broadcasting on the Council’s website.

146.

Apologies for Absence

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Minutes:

Apologies for absence were received from Councillor Dhiren Basu and Councillor Karen Alexander, who was substituted by Councillor Jim Jenks.

 

An apology for lateness was received from Councillor Joseph Ejiofor.

147.

Urgent Business

The Chair will consider the admission of any late items of urgent business. (Late items will be considered under the agenda item where they appear. New items will be dealt with at item 7 below).

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There were no such items.

148.

Declarations of Interest

A member with a personal interest in a matter who attends a meeting of the authority at which the matter is considered must disclose to that meeting the existence and nature of that interest at the commencement of that consideration, or when the interest becomes apparent.

 

A member with a personal interest in a matter also has a prejudicial interest in that matter if the interest is one which a member of the public with knowledge of the relevant facts would reasonably regard as so significant that it is likely to prejudice the member's judgment of the public interest and if this interest affects their financial position or the financial position of a person or body as described in paragraph 8 of the Code of Conduct and/or if it relates to the determining of any approval, consent, licence, permission or registration in relation to them or any person or body described in paragraph 8 of the Code of Conduct.

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Minutes:

Helena Kania declared a personal interest in Item 6 – Budget Planning – line 48 – Close In House Home Care Service / Create Reablement Service – as her Mother had utilised the reablement service.

149.

Deputations/Petitions/Presentations/Questions

To consider any requests received in accordance with Part 4, Section B, paragraph 29 of the Council’s constitution.

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There were no such items.

150.

BUDGET SCRUTINY - REVIEW OF financial planning for 2011/12 TO 2013/14 pdf icon PDF 799 KB

To update Members on the financial planning position for 2011/12 to 2013/14.

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Kevin Bartle (Lead Finance Officer and Deputy Chief Finance Officer) introduced the Review of Budget Planning document for 2011/12 to 2013/14 as presented to Cabinet in December 2010 and highlighted key factors in the report including that if all the changes and variations set out in the report were agreed the Council would still have a shortfall of £33,989 million in 2011/12 and £86,878 million over the 3 year financial plan (Appendix 1). 

 

The reason for such significant financial difficulties related mainly to the unprecedented reduction in government grant along with significant  growth/ increased costs which results in the level of savings required to fill the funding gap. The Committee noted that on-going work on a number of additional proposals was continuing with a view to having a balanced budget for 2011/12 by the end of February 2011.

 

The Committee commented on the difficulty of scrutinising the Budget when the papers provided only covered a proportion of proposed cuts with many more to follow as they could not get a sufficient overview. The Committee was also told that there remained uncertainty surrounding the level of future financial resources (as the financial settlement from central government was still only provisional).

 

The Committee requested further information (including what other options had been considered) on the following aspects of the budget:

 

New Revenue Investment Proposals

Ref

No.

Report Page No.

Area / Service

Efficiency or invest-ment

£

Overview and Scrutiny Committee

comments

1 &

 

2

 

8

Adult Social Care - Reduced Contributions from NHS

 

695

 

383

The Committee expressed concerns that the most vulnerable residents would take the impact.

 

The committee acknowledged the demographic pressures on budgets but asked that an estimate be made of the budget pressures resulting form PCT budget changes over the next three years.

3

 

 

&

 

 

4

 

8

 

 

Adult Social Care 

Demographic Pressures – Mental Health & Older People

556

 

455

The Committee asked for documented background information on why investment was proposed for 2011/12 only.

6

8

Adult Social Care - Transition

1,847

The Committee asked for more information on the “assumed £1.4 million” including where the funding was coming from.

 

8

 

 

9

Children & Young People (CYPS) - Demographic pressures

4,000

 

 

The Committee asked for an explanation of why, after an initial growth, reductions were planned for 2012/13 and 2013/14.  The Committee also asked for more information on the £4 million investment in CYPS next year which was a concern given the savings required.

9

9

CYPS – increased legal cost budgets

500

The Committee requested further information on the increase in legal costs and why these were not planned to reduce in 2012/13 and 2013/14 in line with the reductions in the previous item. 

 

Reference was also made to a question asked  at an earlier OSC meeting about the rise in legal costs of taking children into care and a commentary on the measures taken to curb this spending was requested.

10

9

CYPS

1,000

The Committee expressed concern that this service was already stretched and asked for  ...  view the full minutes text for item 150.

151.

New Items of Urgent Business

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There were no new items of urgent business.

152.

Future meetings

Further Budget Scrutiny meetings are scheduled for:

 

Monday 17th January 2011 (10am)

 

Wednesday 19th January 2011 (provisional - time to be confirmed)

 

All meetings will be held at the Civic Centre.

 

 

 

 

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The next Budget Scrutiny meeting will be held on Monday 17th January 2011 at 10am at the Civic Centre.

 

A further provisional Budget Scrutiny meeting has been set for Wednesday 19th January 2011 at 4.30pm.

 

 

 

The meeting ended at 19:00 hrs.