Agenda and minutes

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The Chair advised those present that the meeting was being Webcast on the Council’s website.

Apologies for absence were received from Councillor Ray Dodds.

The Chair will consider the admission of any late items of urgent business. (Late items will be considered under the agenda item where they appear. New items will be dealt with at item below. New items of exempt business will be dealt with at item below).

No items of Urgent Business were received.  

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A member with a personal interest in a matter also has a prejudicial interest in that matter if the interest is one which a member of the public with knowledge of the relevant facts would reasonably regard as so significant that it is likely to prejudice the member's judgment of the public interest and if this interest affects their financial position or the financial position of a person or body as described in paragraph 8 of the Code of Conduct and/or if it relates to the determining of any approval, consent, licence, permission or registration in relation to them or any person or body described in paragraph 8 of the Code of Conduct.

No declararions of interest were made.

To consider any requests received in accordance with Part 4, Section B, paragraph 29 of the Council’s constitution.

No Deputations were made.

The Chairman noted that although no formal Deputations had been received there would be an opportunity, following the Mental Health Trusts presenation and questions from members of the Committee, for members of the public to contribute to the meeting.  

A joint paper from Barnet, Enfield and Haringey Mental Health Trust and Haringey Teaching Primary Care Trust is attached.

The Committee received a presentation from the MHT setting out how the Trust intended to consult with the local community over proposals in relation to the site.

Following the presentation the Chair reminded those present that role of the Committee was to scrutinise the MHT’s proposals and the quality of the consultation process. He clarified that the Committee was not responsible for facilitating the consultation process.

Representatives from the PCT reinforced the message that development of Mental Health Services would be driven by the need to improve clinical services.  Accommodation was a secondary issue and proposals around this and the St Ann’s site would be shaped by service delivery. 

Questions from the Committee

Concern was expressed by several members of the Committee that the development of further community based services should not be driven by a cost. 

In response to queries the Committee was advised that at this stage a financial analysis of funding in relation to potential proposals was not available. However, it was unlikely that additional revenue funding would be made available and therefore the development of services was being considered on a cost neutral basis.

The Committee asked for assurances from the PCT and MHT that the model of consultation used would engage with the broadest range of people possible. It was noted that many members of the public had not been satisfied that previous consultation exercises had achieved this.

The Chair of the MHT advised that the Trust was keen to engage a broad base of people during consultation in order to reflect Haringey’s diverse population. The points made in relation to previous consultation exercises were acknowledged and the Committee was advised that an individual had been appointed specifically to manage the consultation process. In addition to this, an agency with specific expertise in facilitating large consultation exercises, would be employed to assist with the process. Once the process for the consultation exercise had been finalised it would be presented to the Committee for discussion.

The Committee requested that a ‘bottom up’ approach was taken to the consultation exercise. It was noted that a series of workshop sessions were being planned to facilitate discussion with the local community and stakeholders.

In response to a query as to how long it would take to implement proposals to extend the level of community based care, the Committee was advised that it was envisaged that it would take approximately three years to complete in total.

Public Representations

The Chair allowed three members of the public to make representations including:

Mr Mario Petrou, Save St Ann’s Campaign

Mr Dave Morris, Haringey Residents Association.

Mr Mash Alam, Service User.

In response to points made by members of the public, the Committee was reminded that this formed the start of the consultation process. No final decisions in relation to the development of Mental Health Services or the redevelopment of the St Ann’s site had yet been made.

The PCT and MHT noted that although both organisations were committed to with engaging local  ...  view the full minutes text for item 31.

No new items of Urgent Business were received.