Cllr
Dana Carlin, Cabinet Member for Finance and Corporate Services,
introduced the report on the finance update for Quarter 3 noting
that there wasn’t a substantial difference to the situation
for Quarter 2, although there had been a slight deterioration in
terms of the demand for and the cost of adult social care services
and temporary accommodation. The Council was continuing with the
measures previously put in place to reduce non-essential spending.
Additional funds had been added to the Adult Social Care budget for
2024/25 but, due to the increase in demand, this money had not been
sufficient. In addition, some savings had not been achieved over
the course of the year and the detail of this was set out in the
agenda papers.
Cllr Carlin, Taryn Eves, Director of Finance, other
Council officers and Cabinet Members then responded to questions
from the Committee:
- Cllr White
commented that there appeared to have been some success in a number
of areas but that the efforts to improve the financial situation
had been more than offset by further deterioration in the adult
social care position. Cllr Carlin responded that almost all local
authorities had experienced increased pressures in Adult services,
Children’s services and temporary accommodation. Taryn Eves
explained that the position in the report was from December 2024
and that the impact of some of the spending controls might not be
seen until Quarter 4 and would then have the biggest impact in the
2025/26 financial year as they became fully embedded. However, she
added that there were still some areas of risk, including a rise in
the figures for some demand-led services and for bad debt
provision. The position set out in the report was before the use of
corporate contingency and it was highly likely that it would be
necessary to use Exceptional Financial Support from the government
to balance the position for 2024/25.
- Cllr White
commented that there could be further pressures caused by the
increased global financial instability. Taryn Eves responded that
the rates of inflation, interest rates and the cost of services
were particularly relevant, particularly in relation to
construction costs which could impact on the capital
programme.
- Asked by Cllr
White how much of the Exceptional Financial Support was likely to
be needed, Taryn Eves said that it was not possible to put a
precise figure on this until the outturn report had been produced,
but acknowledged that it was highly likely that some Exceptional
Financial Support would be required for 2024/25.
- Cllr
Gunes requested an explanation of why a
younger cohort of people required support from adult social care
services. Cllr Lucia das Neves, Cabinet
Member for Health, Social Care and Wellbeing, explained that a
higher incidence of conditions such as autistic spectrum disorders
had been seen in the Borough for some time and that some service
development, such as the Autism Hub, had been in response to this
trend. Other associated health conditions could add to complexity
with recent estimates that there were 20% more people with two or
more long-term health conditions in the Borough. She added that
poverty and social exclusion could also impact on health and
well-being. Sara Sutton, Corporate Director for Adults, Housing
& Health, added that there had been an unprecedented increase
in one or two areas, including physical disabilities in the lower
age cohort, with a spike over the past three quarters. However, it
was not currently anticipated that this would be a long-term
trend.
- Cllr
Gunes expressed concerns about the
long-term impact of using Exceptional Financial Support, which
would incur £72k of borrowing costs per year for every
£1m of funds drawn down according to the report. Taryn Eves
explained that Exceptional Financial Support could be funded by
capital receipts or borrowing with an allocation in the revenue
budget for a “minimum revenue provision”. The
additional borrowing costs would therefore add to the budget gap
for future years which was why it was important to limit the
drawdown for 2024/25 and 2025/26 as much as possible.
- Cllr Connor
asked whether figures could be provided on the additional borrowing
costs of Exceptional Financial Support drawdown over 20 years.
Taryn Eves responded that she could not provide a precise figure
but that, with around £72k of borrowing costs per year for
every £1m of funds, this would increase the budget gap in
subsequent years. The working assumption for 2025/26 was that
£27m would be funded through borrowing and £10m from
capital receipts and this was factored into the five-year forecast
in the Medium-Term Financial Strategy (MTFS).
- Asked by Cllr
Connor for clarification on the reserve balance, Taryn Eves
explained that this would be set out in the outturn report and that
it involved reserves held for risks and uncertainties. These
included the Services Reserve and the Unspent Grants Reserve which
totalled £22m and would be reviewed to establish whether
older balances were no longer required and could be released to
reduce the 2024/25 overspend.
- Referring to
paragraph 1.4 of the report, Cllr Connor noted the increased demand
for services from clients aged 50 to 64 presenting with physical
disability and mental health needs. She queried the reasons for
this and how their needs were being met prior to that. Cllr das
Neves commented that there was growth
in demand and complexity in various age groups, so it was possible
that the Council may not have been supporting some of these people
prior to that. There were also challenges around healthy life
expectancy which could mean that people were presenting in earlier
age brackets than expected.
- Cllr Connor
requested further details on the reasons for the increased
acquisition costs for the capital schemes relating to Wards Corner
and High Road West. Taryn Eves responded that there had been a
pragmatic consideration of which capital schemes could continue and
the changes from 2025/26 onwards reflected what was felt to be the
most realistic timescale for delivery. This would be reviewed again
for 2026/27 and there was a new capital board in place to review
this work.
- Cllr Buxton
queried the changes made to the budget, such as through in-year
savings, without the approval of Full Council or Scrutiny. Taryn
Eves responded that savings proposals were agreed each year when
setting the Budget, but that spending could be reduced in-year in
relation to non-essential spends that did not impact on service
delivery. This could include, for example, printing costs or agency
spend, and were referred to in the papers as management
actions.
- Cllr Worrell
queried the implications of using Exceptional Financial Support in
2024/25 for the Budget in 2025/26 and what options would remain in
circumstances where even Exceptional Financial Support was not
sufficient to balance the Budget. Cllr Carlin commented that there
was some discussion nationally about what Exceptional Financial
Support was originally intended to be used for and that a large
number of local authorities now required this support due to the
current financial pressures. It was recognised that Haringey was in
this situation due to demand-led pressures and not because it had
been profligate with spending. She added that the Leader of the
Council had been in correspondence with the Minister of State for
Local Government who had responded to reassure the Council that
funding from central Government would be based on factors including
deprivation and ability to raise income through Council Tax. Taryn
Eves explained that the ‘in-principle’ agreement with
the Government on Exceptional Financial Support was for £28m
in 2024/25 and £37m in 2025/26 but that the amount of this
that would be needed for drawdown would not be finalised until the
final outturn position had been established. In circumstances where
this was not sufficient to balance the Budget, there would need to
be a further conversation with the Government. The Council aimed to
improve forecasting which would assist with the ongoing
conversations with the Government.
- Cllr Worrell
requested clarification on how the savings delivery for 2024/25
impacted on savings targets for 2025/26. Taryn Eves clarified that
the 2025/26 Budget did include some write-off of undelivered
savings from 2024/25 which had been clearly documented in the
Budget report. An assumption had been made in relation to the Amber
savings of £3.2m set out in Table 2 of the report that these
would be delivered in full in 2025/26 so it would be necessary to
keep on close eye on this. It was recognised that a significant
level of risk was being carried and so the corporate contingency
for 2025/26 had been increased to manage this.
- Cllr White
queried whether any further improvements to the position for
Children’s Services and Housing was anticipated in Quarter 4.
Cllr Zena Brabazon, Cabinet Member for Children, Schools
& Families, said that figures for Quarter 4 were not yet
available. However, she added that the number of children in care
was down at 316, but the market costs from private providers were
rising and the complexity of cases was also increasing. She added
that rising costs in this area was a national issue. Ann Graham,
Corporate Director of Children’s Services, commented that she
was not anticipating the financial position to worsen in Quarter 4,
although there would be an overall overspend as set out in the
report. On Housing Demand, Sara Sutton reported that the position
had been relatively stable in Quarter 3 and it was anticipated that
it would remain stable in Quarter 4. However, the market remained
volatile in terms of costs temporary accommodation. Jahedur Rahman, Director of Housing, added that the
housing demand acquisition programme was expected to deliver a
saving but, while properties had been acquired, there was a slight
lag between doing so and people moving in. Therefore, a significant
proportion of the savings would be delivered in 2025/26 rather than
2024/25.
- Asked by Cllr
White about bad debt provision and Housing Benefit overpayments,
Taryn Eves said that the forecast had been fairly consistent
throughout the year and there remained an overspend for 2024/25.
There had been some detailed work on this, including the recovery
of overpayments.
- Cllr Connor
referred to the savings for Adults, Health & Communities set
out from page 48 of the agenda pack and noted that resource
constraints within the commissioning teams appeared to be causing
delays to these savings. Sara Sutton explained that, on
transitions, additional budget had been approved for the
commissioning team for 2025/26 and recruitment would follow which
would provide a significant increase in resources to deliver
savings profiled over the next few years. She also clarified that
the savings for Adults, Health & Communities also now included
housing demand due to the recent reorganisation of Directorates in
the Council. On transitions, Cllr Brabazon added that the red rating could be
slightly misleading because this was a new service and the staff
team had needed to be assembled in the first year so there had been
an enormous amount of work to get this underway. Ann Graham added
that, with hindsight, the business case could have been structured
differently with more lead-in time before the savings could be
achieved. She noted that the project and the recruitment did not
begin until April 2024 but that around half the projected savings
had still been achieved. The reprofiled
targets would take into account the unachieved savings.
- Cllr Connor
requested clarification on the source of funding for the new
capital scheme “Tottenham Parks”, referred to in
paragraph 3.8 of the report. Cllr Carlin explained that, through a
reorganisation of costs, it had been possible to find around
£1.8m from the Down Lane Park budget to put into other
Tottenham parks that hadn’t received investment for some
considerable time. She emphasised that there would still be
substantial investment in Down Lane Park.
- Cllr Connor
referred to Strategic Procurement, which involved £600m spent
on contracts according to paragraph 11.5 of the report, and
requested further details of how efficiency was being achieved in
this area. Taryn Eves explained that the majority of Council
spending was on contracts and staffing so it was necessary to
tighten contract spend. The £600m figure was approximately
£450m on revenue and £150 on capital and the aim from
2025/26 onwards was to save £3m per year. A new Procurement
Board was in place to support this process by examining all
contracts at an early stage. Cllr Connor suggested that it would be
useful for key papers, for example from Audit Committee on
significant items on procurement, to be flagged to the Committee in
future. (ACTION)
- Cllr Connor
proposed that the Adults section of the finance information in the
report should be added as an agenda item to the next meeting of the
Adults & Health Scrutiny Panel in order to scrutinise this in
greater detail. (ACTION)