The Panel received a report
which set out the draft 2025/26 budget and 2025-2030 Medium Term
Financial Strategy. The report set out the budget setting process
for 2025/26 to date and also set out the further steps that would
be taken prior to its final sign-off by Full Council in March. The
report was introduced by Neil Sinclair, Head of Finance (People) as
set out in the agenda pack at pages 82-141. The Cabinet Member for
Children, schools and Families was present for this part of this
agenda item, along with a number of officers from Children’s
Services; the Director of Children & Young People’s
Services, the Assistant Director of Safeguarding & Social Care,
and the AD Early Help, Prevention and SEND. Cllr Dana Carlin,
Cabinet Member for Finance and Corporate Services was also present
for this item.
The Chair advised that the
Panel would be taking sections of the report in turn. The Panel
would start with a discussion on the overall budget and its wider
financial context (cover report and appended Cabinet report), then
they would go through the relevant budget pressures (Appendix 1),
then the new savings proposals (Appendix 1a), followed by
amendments to the capital budget relevant to Children & Young
People’s Services (Appendix 1b), and they would then look at
the pre-agreed savings tracker (Appendix 1c). The following arose
during the discussion of this agenda item:
- The Chair
sought assurances around how the service was responding to the
pressures arising around staff capacity. In response, the Director
advised that she monitored the data in Children’s very
closely. Sometimes the data points came down, such as child
protection plans and sometimes the data points went up such as
EHCPs. The Director assured Members that she scrutinised the data
forensically in order to make sure there was sufficient capacity in
the team. An example given was around the fact that there was a
pressure around EHCPs identified in the service and that, following
conversations with the Cabinet Member and Director of Finance, a
growth bid was submitted as it was recognised that this would have
an impact on the deliverability of the service. The Director also
set out that she worked closely with her management team to look at
how they could address the demand where possible. The Director
suggested that she suspected the additional support put into Early
Year’s provision was having a positive impact on the number
of child protection plans.
- The Panel
commented on a report by the Competition Markets Authority and a
subsequent recent statement by the Secretary of State around
providers making excess profits from social care placements and
queried whether the action proposed by the government around
capping care placements would ease the pressure on local
authorities. In response, the Director advised that this was
something that she recognised and that the problem had been getting
worse for some time. The Director advised that in the past she had
been asked to approve £18,600 per week placement for one
child. The Director commented that she welcomed any action taken to
try and offset the pressures in high-cost placements. The Cabinet
Member advised that she was hopeful that the proposals put forward
in Parliament would curtail the market but cautioned that there
would also have to be a degree of investment from government. The
Cabinet Member suggested that Council’s would have to start
talking to each other and looking at developing consortia for
insourced provision. The Director commented that one of the drivers
on the cost of placements was lack of capacity, and that there was
a degree of concern that the changes might result in providers
exiting the market quickly, before the sector has time to
adjust.
- The Chair
raised concerns about recent articles in the press about local
authorities placing vulnerable children in unsafe housing as part
of care placements. In response, the Director advised that the
report she had seen was around children being placed in campervans
and Airbnb accommodation. The Director provided assurances that
this did not happen in Haringey, however it was acknowledged that
finding suitable placements could be a difficult and stressful
process. Fundamentally there just weren’t enough placements.
The AD Safeguarding and Social Care advised that the service worked
hard to find and monitor suitable placements for
children.
- The Panel
sought assurances around the fact that the forecast budget
pressures in the report were projected to reduce over the five year
term of the draft MTFS and queried the extent to which this was a
robust assumption. In response, Corporate Finance advised that the
additional investment to offset the budget pressures around ECHPs
and the education psychology service were only in Year 1, rather
than being recurring. That explained why the pressures reduced in
the table that was being referred to. The Cabinet Member explained
that once money had been put into the base budget that it stayed
there, it just that there was no further increases projected in
Years 2 onwards. Overall, the MTFS represented over £14m
worth of revenue investment in Children’s
Services.
- As a
follow-up, the Panel sought assurances about the forecast budget
pressures around EHCPs and School Transport and whether the
investment was sufficient to meet demand, and whether it should be
anticipated that demand would increase further by Q4. In response,
officers advise that the projections were based on very robust
financial modelling that had been done, based on the staffing
investments needed to meet the projected demand over the five year
period. Assurances were given that the forecasting was as robust as
it could be and that officers were as confident as they could be
that the projections were accurate. In relation to EHCPs it was
noted that the service had seen an increase in the number of
requests for a plan rise by 100 over the previous year.
- The Chair
sought clarification around what impact austerity had on the
service’s budget since 2010. In response, officers advised
that it was around a 40% reduction overall but that they would
provide a written response on the specific impact on the Children
and Young People’s Service. (Action: Ann
Graham).
- The Chair
sought further assurances around what the main budget pressures
were in the service and how these would be managed going forward.
In response, the Director advised that the report identified four
key areas of demand pressures, including high placement costs which
had already been discussed. The other three included the education
psychology service, which was a pressure as it was previously
funded through the DSG but due to a technical change it would now
need to be funded through the General Fund. There was also a
£475k staffing pressure around Education Health and Care
Plans (EHCP) and additional cost pressures in school transport,
including a 30-40% increase in demand for home to school transport.
The Director advised that there was always a general pressure
around capacity and sufficiency in the service but that was managed
by the Director and her management team.
- The Panel
sought assurances about whether the Council was looking at a joined
up approach for social care placements across London. In response,
officers acknowledged that this was a difficult area and that the
Council had undertaken the Hazelmere scheme itself. The Director
advised that there would always be bumps along the way as working
with 33 London boroughs had its challenges, as per the work that
the 33 London boroughs were doing with the DfE to establish welfare
residential provision. It was noted that there was also work being
done with health colleagues to look at residential placements for
children with mental health needs. The Director cautioned that the
timescale for this was years.
- In response
to a question about the impact of possible additional funding
announced in the Autumn Statement, the Cabinet Member advised that
there was £3.2b announced going into the schools budget,
including £1b for SEND provision. However, it was not yet
known how this funding would be allocated or what Haringey’s
share might be. In addition, the government announced £6b for
school buildings. Cllr Brabazon clarified that the smoke signals
from government was that there was some additional money for school
revenue budgets, SEND and capital funding. There was also money for
some breakfast clubs and additional childcare funding for nursery
pilots. However, the childcare worked out to around £150k per
authority. The AD Early Years, Prevention and SEND cautioned that
Haringey was in the Safety Valve programme and that any additional
funding would likely be used to offset its existing deficit within
that programme. Further details of the figures and how they would
be allocated were expected in late December.
- The Chair
invited the Panel members to ask questions on the new savings
proposals at Appendix 1b. There was only one saving put forward in
Children’s Services and that was additional income generation
of £25k through Pendarren, which would make the site
self-financing. Members asked whether the site was operating at
full capacity and whether there was more that could be done to
attract other external users of the facilities, particularly
ensuring that there was self-catering facilities available. In
response, the Director advised that there were looking to advertise
the site externally, to groups that would be vetted before booking.
This was being done along with looking at updating the booking site
and the website.
- The Panel
commented that without self-catering facilities in the main house,
certain sections of the community would not be able to use it due
to their dietary requirements and the risk of cross-contamination.
Officers agreed to come back with a written response about whether
there were self-catering facilities available in the main house
and/or whether there were separate kitchen facilities for Kosher
dietary requirements in the main house. (Action: Jane
Edwards).
- The Panel
sought assurances from the Cabinet Member for Finance around
whether it was anticipated that further savings would need to be
found from the Children’s service budget in order to close
the existing budget gap. In response, the Cabinet Member advised
that all directorate budgets were being looked at on a line-by-line
basis, and that this included savings being delivered this year but
agreed in previous years. Corporate Finance were also looked at
reducing spend on things like; procurement, contracts, payment
cards and agency staff. It was suggested that after years of
increasing un-funded pressures that there was a limit to the
savings that could be made. The Cabinet Member set out that
Haringey was in a similar position to the other outer-London
authorities and that they needed more support from central
government to become financially sustainable.
- The Panel
considered the Capital programme as attached at appendix 1c. It was
noted that there were no changes proposed to the capital budget in
Children & Young People’s Services, under these draft
budget proposals.
- The Panel
sought assurances around what would happen to youth services and
other non-statutory services in light of ongoing budgetary
pressures. In response, officers advised that the Corporate
Delivery Plan set out what the priorities of the Council were and
the purpose of setting a budget was to provide a financial
framework to deliver those priorities, even if the financial
picture was difficult. Assurances were given by the Cabinet Member
that the administration knew the impact
of cutting youth services and that the Council needed to protect
the core of its services, in order to be able to build them up
again when there was money available. Officers set out that
government announced additional funding for youth services in the
Autumn Statement, but how this would be apportioned across local
government was not yet clear.
- In relation
to the previously agreed savings tracker, it was noted that there
were two savings that were amber. The first was a £99k saving
from changes in staffing costs at Pendarren. It was noted that this
was expected to be implemented in full, but that there may be a
degree of re-profiling the saving. The second was a £119k
saving in accommodation for local care leavers. The Director
advised that work was continuing to find accommodation through the
Housing Allocations process and that it was expected that the
savings for this year would be delivered in part, if not in
full.
The following
requests for information and recommendations were agreed by the
Panel:
1.
Clarification was requested about Pendarren and
whether there was facility for outside groups to use the main house
on a self-catering basis, particularly in relation to groups with
specific dietary requirements.
2.
The Panel sought assurances from Cabinet around the
modelling used to calculate the forecast pressures in
Children’s. The Panel would like assurances that the
forecasts will continue to be reassessed going forward, including
in reference to updated in-year budget monitoring figures for
Quarter 2 2024/25. Also, assurances were sought about whether the
forecasts be affected by additional funding announced in the Autumn
Statement.
3.
In
reference to the residual budget gap of around £32m, the
Panel requested assurances from Cabinet that they would seek to
minimise the impact of further savings on children and young people
in the borough.
4.
The
Panel request that Cabinet provide a response on what their plans
are for income generation, rather than savings, to close the
overall residual budget gap. The Panel also seek assurances from
Cabinet that they have explored every opportunity for income
generation.
5.
The Panel requested that Cabinet give assurances
around the fact that they will monitor the costs of
children’s social care placements
closely going forwards(given the budget pressure in this area), and
also give assurances around how the Council will ensure that none
of our providers use unsuitable placements, such as caravans and
Airbnb sublets. Further assurances were
requested about how we will monitor providers charging excessive
rates for high-cost placements.
6.
Savings Tracker (£200k saving). The Panel
requested further information about what mechanisms are being used
to effectively manage the market? Are there lessons that could be
rolled out more widely.
7.
The Panel request clarification about what the
‘Digital Savings’ saving relates to on the Savings
Tracker. The Panel also request clarification about why there is no
RAG rating. It is presumed this should be red, as it is listed as a
£232k shortfall. If this saving is undeliverable, how will
the £232k saving be mitigated?
RESOLVED
That the Panel scrutinised the
proposals presented in the report
And its appendices and provide
recommendations on the Budget proposals
to the Overview and Scrutiny
Committee (OSC) Committee on 20 January
2025.