The Committee
received two deputations in relation to agenda Item 10, the
Renaming of Black Boy Lane.
The first deputation
was given by Anna Taylor and Ian Jackson Reeves both residents of
Black Boy Lane. Below is a summary of the key points made as part
of the deputation:
- Concerns were raised that the discussion to date on the subject
seemed to be focused around ideology and insufficient consideration
had been given to the practical realities involved and the huge
impact that the change of name would have on local
residents.
- A number of legal and important documents would have to be
changed including pensions, passports, immigration documents, bank
accounts and mortgage statements, for example. The cost of this
would be significant and the suggested compensation figure of
£300 would not be enough for many people. The change of
address would also invalidate some insurance policies which could
have a huge financial impact on individuals.
- Particular concerns were put forward about the additional cost
on non-UK citizens and those with dual nationality who would have
to resubmit immigration and visa documents to the Home Office, many
of which would require lawyers to be present and would, as a
result, be very expensive. In addition to the cost involved, many
people were naturally wary of doing anything that may result in
questions being asked about their visa/immigration
status.
- Concerns were also put forward with the inadequacy of
consultation until now on this proposal in general terms, as well
as a specific failure to engage with residents, who were elderly or
otherwise hard to reach.
- Ms Taylor advocated that common sense had to be used and that
the impact and cost to residents had not been properly
understood.
- Mr Jackson-Reeves commented that the proposal smacked of
tokenism and that the amount of money being spent on changing a
name could be far better put to use by supporting those most in
need.
- It was reiterated that the number of places that a
person’s address was officially registered had not seemingly
been fully appreciated and that a cursory search online would show
how important a person’s address was. The cost to people of having to change all of
these and the time and effort spent doing so was unrealistic for a
lot of residents.
In response to the
deputation, the Committee put forward a number of
questions:
- In response to a question around the consultation process, the
deputation party advised that the consultation was very limited and
that this had primarily consisted of one letter sent out to
residents in June/July, which a number of residents did not receive
due to some people’s addresses being missed off the list. The
Committee was advised that the whole consultation process seemed to
be very confused, particularly in terms of the order in which
things had been done. Further concerns were outlined with this
taking place during Covid-19 and an inability to meet with the
Council in person to discuss the matter. Mr Jackson Reeves set out
that his impression was that this was a done deal and that the
consultation was effectively a box-ticking exercise. The deputation
party also commented that the family of John La Rose’s family
were seemingly against the proposals and advocated that the money
could be better spent elsewhere.
- The Committee noted the frustration felt by residents and sort
assurance as to whether they would support it if the Council was
able to put in place adequate support processes. In response, the
deputation party commented that part of the problem was that each
resident would have different needs and that non-UK residents could
be hit with bills of thousands of Pounds. Further concerns were
also raised about the impact on local businesses and the submitting
of tax returns.
- The Committee commented that the report set out that only 35
residents of Black Boy Lane had responded to the consultation and
questioned whether a lack of internet access was part of the
problem.
- In relation to a question around whether it was felt that
£300 was enough, residents advised that this was the first
time that they had been made aware of the figure and that there was
an anecdotal account of a friend who had gone through something
similar and that the costs could amount to
£2k-£3k.
- In relation to a question around whether the residents would
support the proposal if the Council covered all of the costs, the
deputation party set out that it was also a question of the time
and effort involved as most people worked long hours and did not
have the time to undertake the various tasks involved.
The Committee also
received a second deputation on behalf of Haringey Stand Up to
Racism. The deputation was presented by Gary McFarlane and Vivek
Lehal was also present as a member of the deputation party. Below
is a summary of the key points made as part of the
deputation:
- The deputation party welcomed the proposed name change and
suggested that this issue went to the heart of what Britain is as a
country and what Britain wants to be.
- The Black Lives Matter movement raised many questions about how
to eradicate racism in society. One issue was the presentation of
the history of racism in the UK and the use of monuments, statues,
street names and the naming of public buildings. Many on these
names were rooted in slavery and colonialism. This should be seen
as being about righting historic wrongs.
- Haringey is a multi-ethnic and multicultural borough with a
proud history of challenging racism.
- The deputation party acknowledged the concerns raised by the
previous deputation about money but commented that if this was a
problem then money should be sought from the government or perhaps
the City of London, who profited greatly from slavery.
- It was commented that symbolism was important and that, in light
of Black lives Matter, if this action was not taken now then when
would it be.
In response to the
deputation, the Committee put forward a number of
questions:
- In response to a question, the deputation party advised that
Stand Up to Racism had put also forward a number of other
representations on street names and locations in the borough that
they would also like to see changed, including Rhodes
Avenue.
- In response to a question around why this mattered in
contemporary Britain, it was suggested that this was about
remembering the dead generations that went before and trying to
right the wrongs of the country’s past.
- In response to a question, the importance of positive change was
emphasised and that as broad a conversation as possible was needed
on this topic.
The Chair thanked
both deputation parties for their contributions, after summarising
the key messages and concerns raised to be taken into account by
the committee and he stressed that this was an interim stage in the
process, with no decisions having being taken at this stage, and
that if any final decisions were to be eventually made, they would
be taken at a future meeting of the committee following a full
statutory consultation.