Ms Daliah Barrett, Licensing
Officer, introduced the application for the review of the Premises
Licence for Jolly Anglers, 33 Station Road, Wood Green, London N22.
It was noted 580 Green Lanes Ltd. held the Premises Licence. The
applicant of the review was the Metropolitan Police who had claimed
the operation of the premises had failed to uphold the licensing
conditions and the licensing objectives, namely the prevention of
crime and disorder, the prevention of public nuisance, and public
safety.
In addition to the Metropolitan
Police submissions, representations had been received from 22 local
residents and the Licensing Authority. It was noted that only the
documentary and oral representations made to the Committee should
be considered in their deliberations.
Mark Greaves, the Police
representative, outlined the application for review he had made to
the Committee. He took the Committee through Appendix 1 –
Review application and supporting documentation
– which included emails from local residents about their
concerns, and a summary of Computer Aided Dispatch (CAD) reports in
relation to Jolly Anglers call outs. It was clarified that these
were not actual crime reports.
Following questions, Mr Greaves
noted the CAD summaries provided were the extent of the police call
outs to the Jolly Rogers between 25th November 2017 and
19th November 2018. He accepted there were issues with
the police search system in that it was difficult to source
complaints to specific places but rather general locations.
However, he had checked the system as thoroughly as he was able to.
He said he had looked for calls where police were not able to
attend and was not able to find any. He accepted there could have
been more noise related complaints but these might have gone
through to the Council, which had a late night enforcement team to
address any noise complaints received throughout the evening and
early hours. It was noted that the enforcement team had made no
representations to the Committee regarding the matter.
Local residents, Ms Paola
Desiderio, Ms Kate Ash and Mr Andy Belsham, who had made written
representations next addressed the Committee. Ms Desiderio queried
the effectiveness of the police search system used by the Police
representative and claimed that she had made 15 calls to the police
in August alone.
The local residents then
highlighted several concerns they had with the operations of the
Jolly Anglers. They included:
- Noise related issues,
which they said could be heard in the early hours. They claimed the
noise prevented them from being able to sleep.
- Clientele throwing up
and urinating on the streets
- Anti-social related
behaviour such as fighting taking place outside the
venue.
- The issues were not
limited to weekends.
- Smashed glass left on
the streets surrounding the premises.
- The ineffectiveness
of the door staff in being able to handle the clientele and moving
them on once they had left the venue.
- Local residents
claimed they had witnessed the door staff instigating fights and
not acting to prevent fights occurring.
- There were instances
where individuals were congregating outside the venue in their cars
and playing loud music in the early hours.
The Committee next heard from
Mr Matthew Phipps from TLT Solicitors who was representing Ms Nancy
Maxwell, the Designated Premises Supervisor (DPS). Mr Phipps acknowledged the concerns raised by the
local residents and conceded that the situation was untenable. He
apologised to the local residents who had had
complained.
Mr Phipps argued this was not a
case where the license should be revoked but rather new conditions
on the premises license. He informed the Committee that they were
proposing a number of changes to take place at Jolly Anglers. This
included the removal of the DPS and the designation of a new DPS
who had over 20 years’ experience. They accepted many of the
issues raised were in relation to incidents taking place after
midnight. Therefore, they would accept the revocation of the venues
ability to remain open beyond midnight.
Mr Phipps noted a number of the representations made by the local
residents requested the revocation of the late night
license.
Mr Phipps raised the additional
points:
- The Committee had the
option to suspend the Premises License. Mr Phipps invited the
Committee to consider suspending the license for three weeks. This
would allow the venue a period of time in which to refurbish and
change the name of the pub. The suggested name of the pub would be
the Crafty Cock. Other changes would also take place during this
time, such as closing at 00:00.
- Claimed they were
agreeable for the closing time to be 23:00 on Sunday. He noted the
previous Committee that reviewed the premises license seriously
considered reducing the operating hours but, at that time, it did
not consider it appropriate. Mr Phipps accepted the circumstances
had since changed and this Committee might now feel it was
appropriate to reduce the operating hours on the conditions on the
premises license.
- Acknowledged the
clientele of the venue needed to change and that it should no
longer be seen to be the final destination for customers once other
bars and pubs in the local area had closed. One of the proposals
the venue had put forward was to not allow entry after 23:00 for
two months after the proposed re-opening.
- Clarified that the
penalty imposed by Green King on Mr Ertan Salih in paragraph 2.4 of
the Licensing Officer’s report was a warning.
- Acknowledged the
important role of the DPS and that they should be in attendance at
the venue during operational hours or be reachable by phone at all
times. The operator had found an individual with over 20
years’ experience who they would propose to be the new DPS.
This change would occur before the venue would be due to re-open.
He clarified that Ms Maxwell would not have involvement in the day
to day management of the venue.
- Remarked on the
difficulty of the location of the Jolly Anglers venue in Noel Park
ward and that the operators had to be mindful not to exacerbate
existing social problems.
- Regarding the murder
that occurred outside the Jolly Anglers in November 2016, Mr Phipps
noted it was unfair to attribute that incident to the venue and
that the individual had been stabbed elsewhere but made it to the
venue before passing away outside the venue.
- Accepted the venue
had not been forthcoming with previous police requests for CCTV
footage but they had suggested new conditions to improve CCTV
compliance.
- Regarding the CAD
summaries provided, he informed the Committee that a number of
those incidents involved staff at the venue calling the police
first. It was therefore not fair to conclude from the CAD summaries
that there was a lack of management.
- The venue was making
an active effort to ensure that paperwork was better
attended.
- Accepted the number
of DPS changes at Jolly Anglers had not been ideal but this was not
a unique situation when compared to similar venues.
- Highlighted the
report prepared by the Licensing Officer involved incidents at the
venue from 2006 through to 2016 only.
- Noted the lack of
resident representations put forward and of those a large number
claimed there would be improvement if the late night license was to
be revoked, which the venue accepted.
- Noted no premise
could be incident free but that the conditions put forward would
mitigate the concerns raised.
- Accepted there had
been issues with individuals drinking near the premises in their
cars and playing loud music. The venue would be looking to create a
dispersal policy.
- The proposed
conditions by the venue were comprehensive and they were serious
about addressing the concerns raised as they did not want the
Committee to revoke the premises license.
The Committee next questioned
Mr Phipps. The following was noted:
- If the venue were
looking to attract a different clientele, then it should consider
emulating the styling of other local bars/pubs such as the Green
Rooms.
- Mr Phillips claimed
closing at 23:00 Monday to Saturday would not be proportionate and
closing at 00:00 would be in line with the practice of other
venues. He also noted one of their proposed conditions was no new
entry could be made beyond 23:00 for the two months after the
proposed refurbish.
- Regarding Condition
8, the Committee queried why the SIA registered door supervisors
were only being proposed to be present from 20:00. Mr Phipps
responded that he had taken the view that door supervisors would
only be required when premises traded later in the
evening.
- Mr Phipps noted there
had been no representations made regarding underage drinking being
an issue at the venue and therefore it would not be proportionate
for the venue to be required to install a scanning system to ensure
that clients were over the age of 18.
- Mr Phipps informed
the Committee that in order for it to make a DPS change, an
application would need to be submitted. The police would have the
opportunity to object to the proposed DPS but this would be rare in
a situation where they were legally entitled to live in the country
and did not have any criminal history.
The local residents next asked
questions of Mr Phipps. The following was noted:
- The local residents
queried how they could trust the operator to put in place the
changes proposed when they had questioned the evidence in the
report pack. Mr Phipps clarified that he had identified factual
errors and these were incontrovertible. He noted the 38 conditions
were comprehensive and that the reduction in hours would create a
significant improvement in the situation for local residents. He
claimed the operator recognised the concerns raised and had put
forward the 38 conditions to mitigate those concerns.
- Regarding the three
entrances to the pub, Mr Phipps claimed two door staff would be
sufficient and that this would be the appropriate and proportionate
number. He also informed there had been a recent change in the SIA
supervisors. These were different personnel provided by the same
company the venue had previously used.
Mr Gevan Dagn, representing the
License Holder, informed the Committee they supported the proposed
conditions put forward by Mr Phipps to better manage the
situation.
Closing remarks
Mr Greaves, for the Police,
highlighted the concerns with the management of the venue. He
claimed it was still not clear who would be in charge of the venue
and that the management had been the same for the last 10 years. He
also claimed the SIA provisions Mr Phipps had put forward in the
proposed conditions were not robust enough. He claimed that without
SIA present, there would be no enforcement on clientele taking
glass out of the venue or preventing those intoxicated from
regaining entry to the venue. He suggested that from 20:00 until
00:00, there should be two SIA’s present, one to control the
inside and the other to control the smoking section of the venue.
He also suggested that 00:00 was too late for the venue to be open
Sunday to Thursday and this should be revised to 23:00 to ensure
residents were able to sleep at night.
The local residents noted their
concern with the management of the pub and that they had let down
their employees and surrounding residents. Mr Belsham was satisfied
that the revocation of the late night license and the venue being
open up until 23:00 would limit the noise and antisocial behaviour
related complaints.
Mr Phipps, on behalf of the
DPS, referred the Committee to the conditions they had proposed and
requested they reflect on them. He noted they had accepted
criticism and acknowledged things needed to change. However, he
argued that 00:00 was a proportionate and appropriate response and
that 23:00 would be too early for the venue to close. He also
contested that having SIA present 7 days a week was not feasible
and that the Home Office Revise Guidance issued under section 182
of the Licensing Act 2003 at 10.10 states licensing authorities
should be alive to the indirect costs that can arise because of
conditions. Mr Phipps acknowledged a change of management was
needed.
The Chair thanked the parties
for their submissions and informed them the decision would be
available within 5-working days.
RESOLVED
The Committee carefully
considered the application for a review of the Premises Licence of
the public house known as the Jolly Anglers, which is situated at
33 Station Road, Wood Green, London N22. In considering the review application, the
Committee took into account the London Borough of Haringey’s
statement of Licencing policy, the Licensing Act 2003, the
Licensing Act 2003 section 182 guidance and representations made
the Licensing Authority, the Metropolitan Police (who issued the
review application), representations made by local residents, and
representations made by and/or on behalf of the management of the
Jolly Anglers Public house via their legal
representative.
Having heard from all the
parties, the Committee decided that the matters it heard
represented a serious failure to uphold the four licencing
objectives and as a result saw fit to suspend the licence for a
period of three months.
The Committee noted that the
respondent had accepted that the premises had been poorly managed
and resolved that the current DPS should be
removed. The committee also
noted that the respondent had made firm proposals to address the
behaviour that was occurring at and within the immediate vicinity
of the premises. However the committee
was not satisfied that the measures proposed by the respondent were
a sufficient response to the matters put before the
committee.
In particular the committee
felt that the evidence it had read and heard regarding anti-social
behaviour was serious. In
particular, details of violent incidents &
allegations of criminal assaults; evidence from residents of
persistent noise in the middle of the night and a related failure
of patrons of the premises to disperse promptly and quietly after
closing hours; regular fouling of the immediate area including
entrances to residents premises with vomit and other human waste in
full view of small children; the unwillingness and or/inability of
the management of the premises to address these matters of which
they were well aware; an apparent lack
of desire on the part of the management of the premises to
cooperate with the Police investigations into incidents that had
occurred at the premises. The committee
considered that evidence of the persistent occurrence of these
matters fell within circumstances that would justify revoking the
licence. However in view of the
assurances given on behalf of the respondents that they wished to
take a fresh approach to the running of the premises, the committee
decided to suspend the licence for three months.
The committee had regard to the
London Borough of Haringey’s statement of licensing policy
and its wish to promote the local economy of which the premises is
a part, but it could in no way disregard the impact that the
premises was having on local residents,
In light of the evidence before
it the Committee also took the view that the conditions suggested
by the Respondent did not address the matters put before it and
resolved to amend the premises license.
In view of the significant
impact on the local residents caused by the late night license. the
committee resolved to reduce the opening hours to provide for a
closing time of 23:00 Sunday to Thursday and on 00:00 (midnight) on
Friday and Saturday, and to impose further conditions on the licence as set out below.
The committee approached its
deliberations with an open mind and only made its decision after
hearing the parties’ representations. The committee
considered its decision to be appropriate and
proportionate.
Modified
Premises Licence
Supply of Alcohol
Sunday to Thursday -
1100 to 22:30
Friday to Saturday -
1100 to 23:30
Regulated Entertainment
Sunday to Thursday -
1100 to 22:30
Friday to Saturday -
1100 to 23:30
The
opening hours of the premises:
Sunday to Thursday 1100
to 2300
Friday to Saturday 1100
to 0000
The
following additional conditions are to be added to the premises
license -
General – all four licensing objectives
- The Designated Premises Supervisor (DPS) will ensure that staff
are trained, as appropriate, in respect of relevant licensing law;
crime scene best practice and upon the sale of alcohol to drunks
and to persons underage
- A
direct telephone number for the DPS/Manager on Duty at the premises
shall be publicly available at all times the premises is open. This
telephone number is to be made available to residents and
businesses in the vicinity
- Substantial food and suitable beverages other than
alcohol shall be available from midday
when alcohol is supplied at the premises, save for a permitted wind
down period after 22:00 daily
- The DPS shall offer bi-monthly meetings to residents
- There shall be a personal licence holder on duty at the premises
at all times the premises is authorised to sell
alcohol.
The
prevention of crime and disorder
- A
digital hard drive CCTV system shall be in operation to cover
internal and external areas of the premises and any area where
customers have legitimate access shall be sufficiently illuminated
for the purposes of CCTV.
a.
All CCTV recorded images shall have sufficient
clarity/quality/definition to enable facial recognition.
b.
CCTV footage shall be kept in an unedited format for
a period of 31 days; any footage subsequently produced shall be in
a format so it can be played back on a standard personal computer
or standard DVD player.
c.
Any manager left in charge of the premises shall be
trained in the use of any such CCTV equipment and able to
produce/download/burn CCTV images upon request by an authorised
officer from a Responsible Authority.
d.
CCTV shall be maintained on a regular basis and kept
in good working order. CCTV maintenance records to be kept
details of contractor used and work carried out to be
recorded
- An incident log shall be kept at the premises, and made
available on request to an authorised officer or the Police, which
will record the following:
a.
All crimes reported to the venue
b.
All ejections of patrons
c.
Any complaints received
d.
Any incidents of disorder and violence
e.
All seizures of drugs or offensive
weapons
f.
Any faults in the CCTV system or searching equipment
or scanning equipment
g.
Any visit made by a relevant authority or emergency
service.
- The DPS
shall on Friday and Saturday nights, employ a minimum of 2 SIA
registered door supervisors from 20:00 until at least 20 minutes
after the last customer has left the premises.
- The DPS
shall, on Friday and Saturday nights, ensure that when engaged, at
least one (1) SIA registered door supervisor regularly monitors and
supervises the smoking area whilst it is in use by
customers.
- Upon
re-opening following the planned refurbishment works the DPS shall,
on Friday and Saturday nights, ensure that when engaged, at least
one (1) SIA registered door supervisor regularly monitors and
supervises the rear courtyard area whilst it is in use by
customers.
- Upon
re-opening following the planned refurbishment works there shall be
no admittance or re-admittance to the premises after 23:00 except
for patrons permitted to temporarily leave the premises to
smoke
The prevention of public nuisance
- No music or amplified sound shall be generated on the premises
so as to give rise to a nuisance, checks outside the premises will
be undertaken to ensure compliance and recorded in the incident
book.
- A
prominent notice shall be displayed at the exit from the premises
requesting patrons to respect local residents and to leave the
premises and area quietly
- A
dispersal policy shall be in place at the premises to ensure that
customers leave the area quietly
- A
smoking policy shall be in place at the premises to ensure that
customers smoking outside the premises do so quietly
- The smoking area at the side of the building as marked on the
approved plan shall close when the premises ceases to be licensed
for the supply of alcohol.
- Patrons permitted to temporarily leave and then re-enter the
premises via the front door e.g. to smoke, shall not be permitted
to take drinks or glass containers with them.
- A
notice shall be prominently displayed at any area used for smoking
requesting patrons to respect the needs of local residents and use
the area quietly
- The DPS/Manager on Duty shall ensure that any patrons smoking
outside the premises do so in an orderly manner and are supervised
by staff so as to ensure that there is no public nuisance or
obstruction of the public highway
- Local taxi numbers shall be available for customers to assist in
ordering a taxi
- Loudspeakers shall not be located in the entrance lobby or
outside the premises building
- All windows and external doors shall be kept closed after 21:00
hours except for the immediate access and egress of
persons
- The acoustic lobbies installed at the premises shall be
maintained.
- Customers shall not be permitted to use the rear garden area
after 22:00 hours daily.
- All waste shall be properly presented and placed out for
collection no earlier than 30 minutes before the scheduled
collection time.
- During the hours of operation the DPS/Manager on Duty shall
ensure that sufficient measures are in place to remove and prevent
litter or waste accumulating from customers in the area immediately
outside the premises, and that this area shall be swept and/or
washed, and litter and sweepings collected and stored in accordance
with the approved refuse arrangements.
Public
safety
- The number of persons permitted in the premises at any one time
during Regulated Entertainment (excluding staff) shall not exceed
175
- The approved arrangements at the premises, including means of
escape provisions, emergency warning equipment, the electrical
installation and mechanical equipment, shall at all material times
be maintained in good condition and full working order
- All external emergency exit doors shall be fitted with sensor
alarms and visible indicators to alert staff when the doors have
been opened
- The edges of the treads of steps and stairways shall be
maintained so as to be conspicuous
The protection of
children from harm
- A
Challenge 25 policy shall be implemented and full and appropriate
identification shall be sought from any person who appears under
the age of 25. The only acceptable forms of identification
shall be passport, photo driving licence, and those carrying the
PASS logo
- Persons under the age of 18 shall be accompanied by an adult at
all times
- The DPS/Manager on Duty shall not permit persons under the age
of 18 to be on the premises after 21:00 daily.
- A
notice shall be displayed indicating that the Challenge 25 policy
is in force
- Staff training shall include the Challenge 25 policy and its
operation. In particular staff shall be trained to take such
action as is necessary to prevent the sale of alcohol to persons
over the age of 18 where those customers are engaged in the
distribution of alcohol to persons under the age of 18. The
training shall be given to a new member of staff before they
commence paid employment and all staff shall be re-trained twice
yearly.
- All training shall be documented
- A
sales refusal book shall be kept at the premises and this shall be
checked each week by the DPS to ensure that staff are accurately
recording refusals. The refusal book shall be open to
inspection by appropriate officers of the Responsible
Authorities.