Agenda and minutes

Joint Meeting with Adults and Health Scrutiny Panel, Children and Young People's Scrutiny Panel
Wednesday, 11th March, 2020 6.00 pm

Venue: Civic Centre, High Road, Wood Green, N22 8LE. View directions

Contact: Rob Mack, Principal Scrutiny Officer 

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Apologies for absence


Apologies for lateness were received from Cllr Opoku


Items of Urgent Business

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There were no items of urgent business.


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To receive a presentation on the following:

·            How young people across the borough get access to information and support if they have autism, a learning disability or physical disability and have been assessed as having ‘low level needs’;

·            The forthcoming Autism Strategy and the new Learning Disability/Autism offer from the day centres/hubs; and

·            The support that is offered in respect of further education and employment as well as housing and social support advice.


(To be considered jointly with the Adults and Health Scrutiny Panel)


At a joint meeting of the Children and Young People’s Scrutiny Panel and the Adults & Health Scrutiny Panel, Members received a presentation on a review of priorities for a whole of life autism strategy. Members were asked to note the presentation and provide comments. The presentation set out the policy context, drivers and priorities for young adults with autism who were transitioning from children to adults and the pathways involved in that transition from child-orientated to adult services. It was noted that this was a follow up to a previous look into transitions undertaken by the Adults and Health panel last year. The presentation was introduced by Charlotte Pomery, AD for Commissioning and Georgie Jones-Conaghan, Joint Lead Commissioner for Adult Learning Disability and Autism.


It was noted that an Autism Strategy Group had been established which included a wide array of partners and parent/carer representatives. The group had met three times and was still developing and expanding.


Members were advised that Autism was a life-long condition for which there is no ‘cure’. Autism is a spectrum condition. Which meant there are a wide range of traits associated with autism and different levels of need.  Some autistic people also had learning disabilities, mental health issues or other conditions, meaning people needed different levels of support.


Autism causes difficulties with social communication and interactions, as well as a potentially restricted and repetitive range of behaviours, activities or interests. Autistic people are more likely to have environmental sensitivity. This means they may be hypersensitive or under sensitive to pain, temperature or other aspects of their surroundings. This will vary in type and intensity from person to person.  The social model of autism is increasingly moving away from seeing autism as a ‘disorder’ and adopting a ‘neurodiverse’ understanding that sees autism as being different but not deficient.


Officers set out that a whole of life strategy was being developed, which was partially a response to increased awareness of autism, a recognition of that pathways for autistic people were in some cases inadequate as well as a recognition of the need to listen to the voice of those with autism. Officers also set out that the Council was beginning a process of co-production of services with services users and that this had highlighted a need for change. Further drivers of this work included the Autism Needs Assessment in 2017, a recognition of the need for better early intervention and prevention, as well as the SEND Joint Strategic Needs Assessment completed in March 2020 which showed a growing prevalence of autism in Haringey. 

Some key facts and figures:

  • There are at least 700,000 autistic people currently living in the UK, which is around 1% of the population.
  • Approximately 40% of autistic people have co-occurring learning or intellectual disabilities 80% of autistic people, at some point in their lives, have mental health problems such as anxiety and depression, and the majority rate their anxiety as the number one problem in their lives.
  • Autistic people without a  ...  view the full minutes text for item 43.