Agenda and draft minutes

Licensing Sub Committee A
Thursday, 12th July, 2018 7.00 pm

Venue: Civic Centre, High Road, Wood Green, N22 8LE. View directions

Contact: Felicity Foley, Principal Committee Co-ordinator 

Items
No. Item

81.

FILMING AT MEETINGS

Please note this meeting may be filmed or recorded by the Council for live or subsequent broadcast via the Council’s internet site or by anyone attending the meeting using any communication method.  Although we ask members of the public recording, filming or reporting on the meeting not to include the public seating areas, members of the public attending the meeting should be aware that we cannot guarantee that they will not be filmed or recorded by others attending the meeting.  Members of the public participating in the meeting (e.g. making deputations, asking questions, making oral protests) should be aware that they are likely to be filmed, recorded or reported on.  By entering the meeting room and using the public seating area, you are consenting to being filmed and to the possible use of those images and sound recordings.

 

The Chair of the meeting has the discretion to terminate or suspend filming or recording, if in his or her opinion continuation of the filming, recording or reporting would disrupt or prejudice the proceedings, infringe the rights of any individual, or may lead to the breach of a legal obligation by the Council.

Minutes:

Noted.

82.

APOLOGIES FOR ABSENCE

Minutes:

None.

83.

URGENT BUSINESS

The Chair will consider the admission of any late items of urgent business.  (Late items will be considered under the agenda item where they appear.  New items will be deal with at item 9 below).

Minutes:

None.

84.

DECLARATIONS OF INTEREST

A member with a disclosable pecuniary interest or a prejudicial interest in a matter who attends a meeting of the authority at which the matter is considered:

 

(i) must disclose the interest at the start of the meeting or when the interest becomes apparent, and

(ii) may not participate in any discussion or vote on the matter and must withdraw from the meeting room.

 

A member who discloses at a meeting a disclosable pecuniary interest which is not registered in the Register of Members’ Interests or the subject of a pending notification must notify the Monitoring Officer of the interest within 28 days of the disclosure.

 

Disclosable pecuniary interests, personal interests and prejudicial interests are defined at Paragraphs 5-7 and Appendix A of the Members’ Code of Conduct

Minutes:

None.

85.

MINUTES pdf icon PDF 117 KB

To approve the minutes of the previous meeting of the Licensing Sub Committee A held on 12 April 2018.

Minutes:

The minutes of the meeting held on 12 April 2018 were approved as a correct record of the meeting.

86.

SUMMARY OF PROCEDURE pdf icon PDF 155 KB

The Chair will explain the procedure that the Committee will follow for the hearing considered under the Licensing Act 2003 or Gambling Act 2005.  A copy of the procedure is attached.

Minutes:

Noted.

87.

LA TABERNA DEL PAISA, 43 WEST GREEN ROAD, TOTTENHAM LONDON N15 pdf icon PDF 208 KB

To consider an application for a variation of the premises licence.

Additional documents:

Minutes:

Daliah Barrett, Licensing Officer, introduced the application for a variation to an existing premises licence at La Taberna del Paisa, 43 West Green Road.  Ms Barrett informed the Committee that the hours shown at paragraph 1.3 of the report were incorrect, and the hours of the licence were 0800-2300, Monday-Sunday, with licensable activities ceasing 30 minutes earlier.  The Applicant had applied for an extension of the opening hours and licensable activities to 0800-0300 Friday and Saturday, and 0800-0000 Sunday to Thursday.  The Applicant, Mr Tobon, had not offered any additional conditions for the panel to consider. 

 

Representations had been received from local residents, the Licensing Authority, and the Metropolitan Police.  Mr Tobon had accepted the hours put forward by the Police and therefore the application would be for an extension to hours on Friday and Saturday only (0800-0000), with licensable activities ceasing 30 minutes earlier.  Hours for Sunday to Thursday would remain at 0800-2300, with licensable activities ceasing 30 minutes earlier.

 

The local resident, Mr Ehrenzweig, made a representation on behalf of his tenants at 60a West Green Road, and tenants at 56-58 West Green Road.  He had received a number of complaints from his tenants regarding noise nuisance from the premises at night.  The premises did not close their doors at night, resulting in noise escape.  Any extension to hours would result in further disturbance to local residents. 

 

The Applicant’s Representative, Mr Tobon’s daughter, presented the application for a variation to the premises licence.  West Green Road was a late night economy, with many premises with similar hours as applied for.  Many of the Applicant’s customer base was Latin American, where the culture was to socialise late at night.  Mr Tobon had found that the business was most viable during the later trading hours and so wished to extend his opening hours to make his business work.

 

Mr Tobon requested to show some photographs to the Committee, and was advised by the Council’s Lawyer that late evidence would only be permitted at the discretion of the Chair.  When asked, Mr Ehrenzweig stated that he could not see the relevance of photographs when the issues raised in relation to the premises were about noise.  The Chair took the decision not to admit the photographs as late evidence.

 

The Applicant’s Representative advised that there had only been one occasion where live music had been played, and this was when the premises had opened.  In response to the representation made by the Metropolitan Police, the Applicant’s Representative advised that there had been no reports of any disturbance caused, and following the agreement to the hours posed by the police, the representation had been withdrawn.

 

In response to questions from the Committee, the Applicant’s Representative advised that:

-           It was not felt necessary to add conditions to the licence, as the existing ones were satisfactory;

-           The complaints log contained details of one incident;

-           The CCTV had been brought up to standard, and all speakers were mounted on anti-vibration brackets,  ...  view the full minutes text for item 87.

88.

CLARKE AND PARKER FISHMONGERS, 488 MUSWELL HILL BROADWAY LONDON N10 pdf icon PDF 207 KB

To consider an application for a new premises licence.

Additional documents:

Minutes:

Daliah Barrett, Licensing Officer, introduced the application for a new premises licence for the sale of alcohol and late night refreshment.  Representations had been received from local residents.  No representations had been made by any other Responsible Authorities.

 

John Rodger, local resident, outlined his representation against the application.  He lived above the premises, and informed the Committee that previous operations of the premises had not caused any nuisance to him or his neighbours.  The business proposed by the Applicants was drastically different to the previous grocers and fishmongers businesses, and he felt that there would be a danger to public safety and an increase in crime and disorder.  The premises had opened on 29 June, with 80 customers inside the premises, 30 customers outside, drinking and blocking the entrances to the properties above.  Mr Rodgers referred to the Socialite Bar which had previously operated in the area and raised concerns that these premises would operate in a similar manner.  He raised concerns over the capacity limits and dispersal policy.  Mr Rodgers added that he had already had to contact the noise enforcement team in relation to noise nuisance from building works, and also raised concerns that the building was not suitable for this kind of premises.

 

Clare Graham, local resident, echoed the comments made by Mr Rodgers, and added her concern that the use of the courtyard would impact on her day to day living.  Ms Graham advised that the courtyard was directly below her bedroom, and was concerned that any use of this area would result in noise disturbance to her.  She added that the entrances for the upstairs properties were next to the premises, which could potentially result in safety issues for residents coming in and out of the building.

 

Ms Barrett advised that the suitability of buildings was not a consideration under the Licensing Act 2003, and that if neighbours experienced any issues with sound travelling then they should contact the Council’s noise enforcement team.  She also advised that the Applicants had not applied for live or recorded music on the licence, however, the live music exemption meant that when a premises licence was granted, any premises could play live and recorded music between the hours of 0800 and 23.00.

 

Louis Cawson and Mohammed Said, Applicants, presented their application for a new premises licence.  Mr Said informed the Committee that the premises was designed to be a small, family oriented dining space.  They were confident that the premises would draw new people to the area.  Since taking over the premises, the courtyard had been cleared up and improved, however Mr Said informed the Committee and local residents that the courtyard would not be used by customers, and the door would remain locked and only be used for storage.  Mr Said informed the Committee of the test night carried out on 29 June (using Temporary Event Notices), and explained that lessons had been learned, with signage now being displayed, no drinks allowed outside (apart from on the licensed  ...  view the full minutes text for item 88.

89.

ITEMS OF URGENT BUSINESS

To consider any new items of admitted under item 3 above.

Minutes:

None.