Agenda and minutes

No items of urgent business were notified

To confirm and sign the Minutes of the meeting held on 10 December 2009 [attached]

The minutes of the meeting held on 10 December 2009 were agreed.

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None notified

To consider the response from Children’s & Young People Services, including financial response.

5.1       Children and Young People Services provided the panel with written submission to the supplementary questions [attached]. 

5.2       With reference to the Transition Plan, officers stated that this was an evolving document containing detailed information from all relevant services including health and social care needs in relation to the individual. The Annual Review in Year 9 and any subsequent annual reviews until the young person leaves school must include the drawing up and subsequent review of a Transition Plan. The Transition Plan draws together information from a range of individuals within and beyond school in order to plan coherently for the young person's transition to adult life. Transition Plans, when they are first drawn up in year 9, are not simply about post-school arrangements; they should plan for on-going school provision, under the Statement of SEN as overseen by the Local Education Authority." 

5.3       The views of young people themselves should be sought and recorded wherever possible in any assessment, reassessment or review from year 9 onwards. About 50 reviews took place annually. It was agreed that an ammonised copy would be made available to the panel. If any of these clients with a Statement of Special Needs.  The recent away day identified the need to consider wider client requirements by the review panel.   With reference to those young people receiving services out of borough, it was noted that follow up services were provided by the home authority [the authority with statutory responsibility for the client].  If their needs can be met by adult services. The important thing was that they are all tracked by Young People Services.   Consideration was being given in relation to maintaining efficient tracking especially as the client group has increased quite considerably.  The services took a holistic approach and are looking as providing support within mainstream education in Haringey.

5.4       Long term programmes include identifying children from birth who were likely to need specialist services in the future.  Currently there were approximately 120 0-5 year olds identified as in need of support.  This would influence commissioning.

5.5       In response to a question about whether people moved to areas with better service provision, it was noted that there was a high mobility into Haringey - approximately 3 to 4 people moving in per week with high needs.  There was a need to weigh up specialist contacts to include annual reviews, the needs of the families’ wishes etc. Clients in out of borough residential are considered as Looked After for the purposes of Section 20 of the Children’s Act 2006 which outlines contact activity directions and conditions. Approximately 6 return visits are funded by the council per year (for families visiting children placed out of borough).

6.0       BUGET PROVISIONS

6.1       There are no comparisons available purely for transition clients; however the table below shows Department of Health financial statistics for Learning Disabilities for 2006/07 and 2007/08. The 2008/09 data is not yet published.

6.2       The Panel commented on the fact that the Audit Commission viewed Haringey as  ...  view the full minutes text for item 5.

8^TH  February 2010 at 12:30 Civic Centre CR2

11^th February 2010 at 14:00hrs Civic Centre CR2

The date for the next meetings were agreed as follows:

8^th February 2010

11^th February 2010

To consider any items admitted at item 2 above.

There were no new item of urgent business