Agenda and minutes

Special Licensing Sub Committee
Monday, 22nd June, 2009 7.00 pm

Venue: Civic Centre, High Road, Wood Green, N22 8LE. View directions

Contact: Anne Thomas  2941

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1.

ELECTION OF CHAIR

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RESOLVED that Councillor Patel act as Chair for this meeting.

2.

Apologies for Absence

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There were no apologies for absence.

3.

Urgent Business

It being a special meeting of the Sub Committee, under Part Four, Section B, Paragraph 17, of the Council’s Constitution, no other business shall be considered at the meeting.

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There were no declarations of interest in relation to items on the agenda.

4.

Declarations of Interest

A member with a personal interest in a matter who attends a meeting of the authority at which the matter is considered must disclose to that meeting the existence and nature of that interest at he commencement of that consideration, or when the interest becomes apparent.

                                                                                

A member with a personal interest in a matter also has a prejudicial interest in that matter if the interest is one which a member of the public with knowledge of the relevant facts would reasonably regard as so significant that it is likely to prejudice the member’s judgement of the public interest and if this interest affects their financial position or the financial position of a person or body as described in paragraph 8 of the Code of Conduct and/or if it relates to the determining of any approval, consent, licence, permission or registration in relation to them or any person or body described in paragraph 8 of the Code of Conduct.

 

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5.

Summary of Procedure pdf icon PDF 53 KB

The Chair will explain the procedure that the Committee will follow for the hearing considered under the Licensing Act 2003.  A copy of the procedure is attached.

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The Committee noted the summary of procedure.

6.

ORDER OF AGENDA

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RESOLVED to vary the order of agenda to accommodate the Police Representatives in attendance.  The minutes will show the items in the order in which they appear on the agenda.

7.

THE OLD ALOYSIANS, ST ALOYSIUS COLLEGE, SPORTS FIELD, HURST AVENUE, HORNSEY, LONDON, N6 5TX pdf icon PDF 164 KB

To consider the application for a new Club Premises Certificate.

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The Old Aloysians, St Aloysius College, Sports Field, Hurst Avenue, Hornsey, London, N6 5TX

 

RESOLVED that this item be deferred until a future hearing.  Due to standing orders the meeting could not continue past 22:00 hrs.

 

Clerk’s note: The Old Aloysians Application was considered at the Licensing Sub-Committee held on 7th July 2009.

8.

PLACE TROCADERO, 12 ST LOYS ROAD, TOTTENHAM, LONDON, N17 pdf icon PDF 144 KB

To consider the application for a new Premises Licence.

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The Committee received an Application for a new Premises License for Place Trocadero, 12 St Loys Road, Tottenham, London, N17 and noted the representations made by the Police, Noise Team and Fire Authority.

 

Clerk’s note: The Committee adjourned at 19:45 until 19:55 to allow interested parties to liaise with each other and agree a small number of speakers to represent them.

 

The Committee noted the following comments from interested parties in objection to the Application:

  • Concerns that noise disturbance, anti-social behaviour and litter would continue to blight the area.
  • The lack of arrangements to deal with excessive rubbish which had been dumped behind the premises.
  • The premises displayed no official opening hours.
  • Patrons often double-parked their vehicles in the streets to stop and talk with patrons outside the premises, causing obstructions.
  • Patrons gathered outside the premises and did not appear to use the facilities inside.
  • Patrons had been witnessed urinating in the area near the premises.
  • Police time was being wasted attending the premises.
  • Patrons appeared to purchase alcohol from nearby shops and drink it outside the premises.
  • There was noise disturbance from machines within the premises.

 

The Committee noted the following information from Derek Pearce, Noise Enforcement Officer:

  • There were concerns about noise disturbance, clearly from patrons attending the premises, and late night opening.
  • The granting of any licence to play music must be conditioned to ensure it can not be heard from neighbouring premises.
  • The premises appeared to sell alcohol without a licence.
  • There were no air-conditioning units inside the premises; therefore the door was always open, exposing residents to noise.

 

The Committee noted the representation made by PC Green, Metropolitan Police Officer, including:

  • The area in which the premises were situated was associated with drunkenness and disorder. Dispersal and no-drinking zones had been put in place further to the complaints of local residents.  In the past, when Police have dispersed groups gathered outside the premises, observation showed that the groups returned inside and, shortly afterwards, went back outside.
  • A large amount of alcohol had been seized from the premises despite the Applicant not having a license to serve alcohol.  Patrons had been seen purchasing alcohol from inside the premises.
  • Materials used or removed during building works had been dumped locally and proved to be from the premises.

 

The Committee noted the representation made by Kevin Clark, London Fire Authority, including that Mr Clark had written to the Applicant in April 2009 requesting specific details around fire safety plans and had not received any response from the Applicant.

 

The Committee noted the following comments made by the Applicant:

  • Whilst he empathised with local residents, they had not complained directly to the Applicant.
  • The Applicant attempted to move people on when they gathered outside the premises and only allowed 3 patrons to go outside and smoke at a time.
  • Regarding excessive rubbish outside the premises, the Applicant stated that the contractors would only remove 5 bags when making a collection and that other premises dumped rubbish  ...  view the full minutes text for item 8.