Agenda and minutes

Scrutiny Review - High Intensity Users
Monday, 11th February, 2008 6.00 pm, NEW

Venue: Civic Centre, High Road, Wood Green, N22 8LE. View directions

Contact: Robert Mack  x2921

Items
No. Item

36.

Apologies for Absence (If any)

Minutes:

Received from Councillor Hoban

37.

Urgent Business

The Chair will consider the admission of any late items of urgent business. (Late items will be considered under the agenda item where they appear. New items will be dealt with at item 6 below).

Minutes:

None.

 

38.

Declarations of Interest

A Member with a personal interest in a matter who attends a meeting of the authority at which the matter is considered must disclose to the meeting the existence and nature of that interest at the commencement of that consideration, or when the interest becomes apparent.

 

A Member with a personal interest in a matter also has a prejudicial interest in that matter if the interest is one which a Member of the public, with knowledge of the relevant facts, would reasonably regard as so significant that it is likely to prejudice the Member’s judgement of the public interest.

Minutes:

None.

 

39.

Minutes pdf icon PDF 115 KB

To approve the minutes of the meeting of 18 December 2007 (attached).

Minutes:

AGREED:

 

That the minutes of the meeting of 18 December 2007 be approved.

40.

Conclusions and Recommendations pdf icon PDF 198 KB

To consider appropriatre conclusions and recommendations for the review.  A report that brings together all the key evidence considered by the review and suggests possible areas for discussion is attached.

Minutes:

The Panel, with the assistance of Professor Sue Procter and Gerry Taylor and Delia Thomas from Haringey TPCT, considered all the evidence that it had received during the course of the review.

 

It noted that there was a strong need for information to be collated across health and social services.  At the moment, records tended to be episodic instead of patient centred.  For instance, GPs were required to hold disease registers that contained information on patients with particular conditions rather then focussing primarily on the patients with them.  It was not clear how many people were at high risk of admission to hospital and could therefore potentially benefit from appropriate interventions.  Collaborative clusters were currently looking at ways that they could better identify people. GPs could potentially play a big part in addressing the issue.

 

It was recognised that there was limited scope for effective local action to address the shortcomings of information systems.  However, there would still be some need for information systems to be developed locally in order to better join up services.  It was felt that it was essential that that these were patient centred, rather then being episodic or disease based.  In addition, it was felt that it was essential that Camidoc and other relevant providers were included in information sharing.

 

It was noted that a significant percentage of high impact users suffered from mental health conditions.  It was therefore important that the Mental Health Trust was included within information sharing.  In addition, there was currently a lack of psychiatric cover for older people at the North Middlesex Hospital due to a lack of agreement between the TPCT and the Mental Health Trust on how this should be provided.  It was felt important that this be resolved. 

 

Ms Taylor reported that Haringey TPCT had not met the target of 21 for the number of Community Matrons posts that they were required to establish by March 2008.  They were currently evaluating the effectiveness of community matrons as part of a stage process to expanding their numbers.  Consideration was being given to increasing their numbers gradually.  However, effective evaluation was complex.  For example, people who had three emergency admissions in one year were generally less likely to have the same number of admissions in the following year irrespective of any intervention.  Many evaluations that had been undertaken of community matrons were based on the US experience, which was not comparable to the UK due to different ways of working. 

 

Information from up to 2006 on the effectiveness of Community Matrons had now been collected and was now being analysed.  There had been a general decrease in the rate of hospital admission for older people and there was a need to look at data covering a longer period before reaching decisions.

 

It was noted that the TPCT was currently using alternative ways of providing case management to make good the shortfall in the numbers of community matrons.  Targets for the number of people to be receiving case management had  ...  view the full minutes text for item 40.

41.

Evaluation

Minutes:

It being the concluding meeting of the review, participants were asked to provide feedback on the effectiveness of the review.

 

Members felt that they were much more aware of the issue now and the challenges that services faced.  It was a very complex subject but they now felt that they now had a better understanding of it.  The exercise had helped to highlight the key issues.  They were satisfied by how the review had been administered and felt that there was no particular areas of relevance that had not been covered.

 

 

42.

New Items of Urgent Business

Minutes:

None.