Agenda and draft minutes

Scrutiny Review - Access to Primary Healthcare for People with Learning Disabilities
Tuesday, 3rd October, 2006 7.00 pm

Contact: Rob Mack  2921

Items
No. Item

7.

Apologies for Absence

Minutes:

None.

8.

Urgent Business

The Chair will consider the admission of any late items of urgent business. (Late items will be considered under the agenda item where they appear. New items will be dealt with at item ?? below. New items of exempt business will be dealt with at item ?? below).

Minutes:

None received.

9.

Declarations of Interest

A member with a personal interest in a matter who attends a meeting of the authority at which the matter is considered must disclose to that meeting the existence and nature of that interest at the commencement of that consideration, or when the interest becomes apparent.

 

A member with a personal interest in a matter also has a prejudicial interest in that matter if the interest is one which a member of the public, with knowledge of the relevant facts, would reasonably regard as so significant that it is likely to prejudice the member's judgement of the public interest.

 

Minutes:

There were no such declarations.

10.

Minutes pdf icon PDF 16 KB

To approve the minutes of the meeting of 5 September 2006 (attached).

Minutes:

AGREED:

 

That the minutes of the meeting of 5 September 2006 be confirmed.

11.

Aceess to Primary Healthcare for People with Profound and Multiple Learning Disabilities

To receive a scene setting presentation from the Head of Haringey Learning Disability Partnership including:

 

·               How the partnership works

·               Definition of PMLD

·               Health issues and how they affect people with LD

·               The role of primary health care

Minutes:

The Panel received a presentation from Gary Jefferson, the Head of the Learning Disability Partnership, on the nature of learning disability and how health issues impacted on people with learning disabilities.

 

He stated that the Partnership was funded under what was referred to as a Section 31 agreement.  This meant that the money from a number of different agencies was pooled in order to provide particular services.  The services that comprised the Learning Disabilities Partnership were Social Services. Haringey PCT and Barnet, Enfield and Haringey Mental Health Trust.  The amount that each agency would contribute was agreed at the beginning of the year.  Once committed, the money could not be withdrawn.  If the budget was overspent, each partner was liable.

 

The majority of learning disability services were now partnerships.  In some case, this might just mean that they just shared the same premises, but the Haringey service was completely integrated and covered all aspects of the health and social care of clients.

 

People with learning disabilities were involved in the governance of the partnership, with representation on the Board.  Linked into the Board, were a number of forums with one each for carers, service users and voluntary sector partners. 

 

The partnership used the following definition of learning disability;

 

 “A significantly reduced ability to understand new or complex information, to learn new skills (impaired intelligence), with a reduced ability to cope independently (impaired social function), which started before adulthood and has a lasting effect on a person’s development.”

 

This was the one used by the Department of Health in its “Valuing People” document on the provision of services to people with a learning disability.  Learning disability was not a condition that people obtained in later life – its onset was before the age of 18.  IQ was generally assessed as being below 70. There was some debate as the whether conditions such as cerebral palsy and autism were in fact learning disabilities.  However, the term normally included Downs Syndrome and a number of other conditions.  In addition, there was debate whether the generic term should be learning disability or learning difficulty. 

 

There were currently around 1,000 clients known to the service and they varied considerably in the level of needs that they had.  For example, some clients only needed assistance for a short period of time once per month whilst other people could require assistance from two people around the clock.  Profound and Multiple Learning Difficulties (PMLD) generally referred to people with the highest levels of need. The service worked with people who were in residential care as well as people who needed continuing support but lived at home.

 

People with PMLD generally had lower levels of IQ coupled with some sensory loss and/or physical impairment.  There were often particular difficulties with communication.

 

During the past decade, life expectancy had improved for people with learning disabilities.  For example, people with Downs Syndrome had generally lived until their mid forties but were now living until their early to mid fifties.  The oldest  ...  view the full minutes text for item 11.

12.

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To consider progress with the review and future timetable (attached).

Minutes:

It was noted that a meeting had taken place between NDT, who were undertaking the detailed consultation on behalf of the Review Panel, and a group of parents and carers who had been selected to take part in the exercise.  The purpose of the meeting was to explain the process and answer their questions.  It had been clear from the meeting that many parents and carers had concerns about healthcare and, although there had been some cynicism about the exercise, they had all agreed to take part.  The group had been selected in order to get a representative cross section of the local population.

 

Mr. Jefferson reported that recruitment of a person with a learning disability to sit on the Review Panel was going ahead.

 

It was noted that the next meeting would be taking place on 31 October and representatives from the voluntary sector and patient organisations would be invited to give their views.  It was agreed that the starting time would be brought forward to 6:00 p.m. in order to avoid clashes with later meetings.

13.

New Items of Urgent Business

Minutes:

There were no such items.