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To approve the minutes of the previous meeting of the Licensing Sub-Committee A held on 21 and 22 September 2005

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That the Committee approved the minutes of the Licensing Sub-Committee A of 22 September 2005.

That the Chair requested an amendment to the minutes of 21 September 2005 at LCA40 paragraph two. The accurate record should have read:

         Mr Peter Thompson, objector, raised his concern that documentation/evidence he had submitted in support of his case had not been included in the Report. The Chair explained that the evidence Mr Thompson proposed to table to the Committee was not submitted within the deadline stipulated by the local licensing guidance. The Chair asked the applicants if they would accept this evidence at the Committee, to which they objected. The Chair, after considering the views of all parties, then decided to accept only a letter  from a Mr Martin Evans which had been received within the time limit for relevant representations, and from 57 Hillfield Park which was tabled at the Committee.

To consider an application for a conversion and variation of a Premises Licence.

(Agenda Item 6)

The Licensing Manager, Ms Daliah Barrett, presented the Report on the application, highlighting that the applicants had applied for a provision of miscellaneous entertainment. Ms Barrett also indicated that the applicants had offered no additional steps in respect of the four licensing objectives. Ms Barrett also drew the Committee’s attention the renewal of Justices' Licence that the applicant possessed which had a number of conditions relating to restriction of the sale of alcohol. A full outline of this license was presented to the Committee. The application had no representations from the responsible authorities, and had received two letters of objections who were not present at the hearing.

Councillor Reynolds asked Ms Barrett to clarify the reference to planning consent that the two objectors had highlighted. Ms Barrett responded that there had been no response from the Haringey Planning Team in respect of the application, despite having been informed about it in the usual way.

The Chair invited the applicants to address the Committee and to respond directly to the comments made by the objectors. The applicants stated that they took the concerns of local residents very seriously. They continued that the application was to ensure that functions on Friday and Saturday nights were the main priority, and that the applied for hours were not significantly different. They had received no complaints from residents previously and had, in their opinion, enjoyed a healthy relationship with neighbours to the premises. There was signage in the premises to respect the peace of the local residents and door supervisors ensured there was no public nuisance. The Chair asked the applicants to clarify that they had not applied for late night refreshments. The applicants stated that beverages would be sold until 01:00 (Friday and Saturday), and that buffets will only be consumed before 22:00. The sale of food did not occur at the premises and was not applied for.

The Chair referred the applicants to page 8 of their application which made reference to allow accompanied children under 16 to be permitted in the bar. The applicants clarified that this referred to all private functions and would be in accordance with the laws which restrict the sale and supply of alcohol to children. They also informed the Committee that signage in the premises highlighted that children should never be unaccompanied anywhere on the premises. CCTV coverage helped to enforce this.

Councillor Beacham asked how many private functions were held, on average, per month. The response was that an average of 4/5 private functions were held, mainly on Fridays, Saturdays and Sundays.

The applicants were asked to clarify their understanding of the planning consents that were necessary to operate lawfully as licensed premises. The applicants confirmed that they would apply for all necessary planning consents for the variations they were apply for by this Committee. The Chair asked for clarity on the applied for miscellaneous entertainment. The applicants responded that this would include comedy entertainment, charity functions and some gambling, in the form  ...  view the full minutes text for item 58.

To consider an application for a conversion and variation of a Premises Licence.

(Item 8, put back from Agenda Item 7)

              The Licensing Manager, Ms Daliah Barrett, presented the Report on the application, highlighting that the applicants had provided a list of additional steps that they intended to take in order to promote the four licensing objectives. Ms Barrett informed the Committee that the Metropolitan Police Service (MPS) had made a representation in the form of a recommendation that on Friday and Saturday nights a minimum of two door staff approved by the Security Industry Authority (SIA) be employed on the premises to control the entry and exit of customers. She also highlighted the Committee that one letter of objection had been received in respect of the application, that had been signed by two local residents who were not present at the hearing.

              The Chair invited the applicant to address the Committee with particular reference to the objections raised in the letter of objections. The applicants stated that they had SIA supervisors who were vigilant and would ensure patrons did not loiter outside the premises. They also stated that they were aware of residents concerns and would seek to resolve these wherever possible. They stated that the premises were a private members bar, and thus all patrons were known to the management. All guests of patrons would need to be signed in by the patron who was allowed up to three guests.

              RESOLVED

              The Committee agreed to grant the application in full and subject to the usual conditions of:

(i)                 Standard mandatory conditions apply (19 and 21).

(ii)               Impose the recommendations of the CPA on age restrictions.

(iii)             Conditions to enforce the operating schedule.

To consider an application for a conversion and variation of a Premises Licence.

(Item 8, put back from Agenda Item 7)

              The Licensing Manager, Ms Daliah Barrett, presented the Report on the application, highlighting that the applicants had provided a list of additional steps that they intended to take in order to promote the four licensing objectives. Ms Barrett informed the Committee that the Metropolitan Police Service (MPS) had made a representation in the form of a recommendation that on Friday and Saturday nights a minimum of two door staff approved by the Security Industry Authority (SIA) be employed on the premises to control the entry and exit of customers. She also highlighted the Committee that one letter of objection had been received in respect of the application, that had been signed by two local residents who were not present at the hearing.

              The Chair invited the applicant to address the Committee with particular reference to the objections raised in the letter of objections. The applicants stated that they had SIA supervisors who were vigilant and would ensure patrons did not loiter outside the premises. They also stated that they were aware of residents concerns and would seek to resolve these wherever possible. They stated that the premises were a private members bar, and thus all patrons were known to the management. All guests of patrons would need to be signed in by the patron who was allowed up to three guests.

              RESOLVED

              The Committee agreed to grant the application in full and subject to the usual conditions of:

(i)                 Standard mandatory conditions apply (19 and 21).

(ii)               Impose the recommendations of the CPA on age restrictions.

(iii)             Conditions to enforce the operating schedule.

To consider an application for a conversion and variation of a Premises Licence.

(Agenda Item 9)

              The Licensing Manager, Ms Daliah Barrett, presented the Report on the application, highlighting the applicants had listed in their original application, measures to uphold the four licensing objectives of the Licensing Act 2003. Ms Barrett stated that there were no representations from interested parties. Ms Barrett then gave details about comments received by the MPS in respect of the application. The Committee were told that the MPS, in conjunction with licensees who run Public Houses in and around Tottenham Hotspur Football Club (THFC), have for the past four seasons run an anti-hooligan initiative called Tackling Trouble Together (TTT).  This scheme has resulted in a reduction of reported violent crime. The MPS now wished to formalise the previously voluntary conditions and made the following recommendations for conditions to any Premises Licence for compliance on football match days that the Committee were minded to grant.

1.             Premises not to open for the sale of alcohol before 11.00 on Saturday and Sunday.

2.             All drinks dispensed from the bar are poured into plastic containers - 4 hours before the scheduled kick-off time until 1 hour after the end of the match.

3.             No glass bottles are sold over the bar - 4 hours before the scheduled kick-off time until 1 hour after the end of the match

4.             A minimum of two Door Staff who have been approved by the Security Industry Authority to be employee on the premises to control the entry and exit of customers - 4 hours before the scheduled kick-off time until 1 hour after the end of the match.

The Committee also noted that the MPS had recommended that on Friday and Saturday evenings, door staff who have been approved by the Security Industry Authority be employed on the premises to control the entry and exit of customers.  Alternatively the doors are closed for entry to the public at midnight on these days. In reference the MPS recommendations, the Chair sought clarity from the Haringey Legal Services. It was established that advice from the Magistrates Courts was that premises in the defined vicinity of the THFC were only permitted to open at 11:00am on Saturday match days.

The Chair invited the applicants to address the Committee. The applicants began by covering the four recommendations for conditions of the MPS and asked them if this was a blanket policy. The MPS responded that this was the case. The applicant stated that he had applied for a 10:00am opening hours to provide flexibility for when match days kicked-off before 14:00 when he would want to open earlier in order to settle customers and contain them in a controlled manner until the match began. This was entrenched by a tried and tested entry policy which the licensees had been using. The applicants accepted the three other recommended conditions (ie, the use plastic glasses, no glass bottles, and SIA door supervisors) outlined by the MPS.

The Chair invited the MPS to address the Committee. The MPS gave  ...  view the full minutes text for item 61.

To consider any new items admitted under Item 2 above

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