Agenda and minutes

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The Chair will consider the admission of any late items of urgent business.  (Late items will be considered under the agenda item where they appear.  New items will be dealt with at item 9 below)

That Agenda Item 6 (Durak Tantuni Salonu), Agenda item 7 (Fahrenheit Restaurant), and Agenda Item 8 (The British Queens) had all been withdrawn from the Hearing.

That an additional application was to be heard in respect of to consider an application for a conversion and variation of a premises licence: Coach & Horses, 862 High Road N17 at Agenda Item 6.

A member with a personal interest in a matter who attends a meeting of the Authority at which the matter is considered must disclose to that meeting the existence and nature of that interest at the commencement of that consideration, or when the interest becomes apparent.

A member with a personal interest in a matter also has a prejudicial interest in that matter if the interest is one which a member of the public with knowledge of the relevant facts would reasonably regard as so significant that it is likely to prejudice the member’s judgement of the public interest.

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To consider receiving deputations and/or petitions in accordance with Standing Order 37, part E.8.

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At this point in proceedings, the Chair explained that under the 2003 Licensing Act the Panel must be satisfied that the application would satisfy the 4 objectives of the said Act:

1.      The prevention of crime and disorder

2.      Public safety

3.      Prevention of public nuisance

4.      The protection of children from harm.

He also advised those present that the Act also required the proceedings to be tape recorded.

(building and grounds), Alexandra Park N22: To consider an application for a conversion and variation of a Premises Licence.

TO CONSIDER AN APPLICATION FOR A CONVERSION AND VARIATION OF A PREMISES LICENCE: Alexandra Palace (building and grounds), Alexandra Park N22 (Agenda Item 5)

               The Licensing Manager, Ms Barrett, presented this item and asked members to note an error under paragraph 5.2 of the application in that: the variation to the “Opening Hours for Public” should be 06:00 to 03:00 and not 10:00 to 02:00; and the variation of hours for the ”Sale of Alcohol for Consumption on the Premises” should be 10:00 to 02:00 and not 06:00 to 02:00.

               This application was the subject of a hearing as there had been 14 representations from local residents regarding noise nuisance from concerts and the Metropolitan Police Service (MPS) had asked that they be given at least 21 days notice on events.  The proposed Designated Premises Supervisor for Alexandra Palace advised that they would be happy to comply with the MPS requests entirely and said he would address the residents concerns about alleged noise nuisance during his presentation.

               The objectors set out their concerns about loss of amenity from noise disturbance and asked if the noise team’s conditions, as set out in paragraph 6.2 of the application, could be applied. They also asked if the number of events could be limited to 6 per year and if live music could cease at midnight.  When questioned by members, the residents confirmed that noise nuisance came from the concerts and not from clients leaving the premises after events.  An objector referred to a letter she had received from the noise team on 26 August 2006 and the Chair agreed to grant the proposed Designated Premises Supervisor time to consider and respond to this.

               The proposed Designated Premises Supervisor was satisfied and said he would also cover these points in his presentation to the sub committee but he could not comply with the request to cease live music at midnight nor predict how many events they would be hosting in the forthcoming year.

               The local ward councillor also spoke in an advocacy role on behalf of the Interested Parties, whom are his constituents, supporting their objections.

               The proposed Designated Premises Supervisor made his presentation and explained to members that, by its nature, this application sought to cover all events in the future and therefore eliminate the need to make separate applications (Temporary Event Notices) for all future events at the Palace.  He provided members with a breakdown of the nature and duration of all events with music over the past 2 years and invited his noise consultant, Capita Symonds Ltd, to address the committee.  The noise consultant explained to members that the use of limiters was inappropriate for the large scale events hosted by the palace.  Instead a method of ‘real time’ monitoring was used whereby monitoring took place at locations in and outside the grounds with immediate feedback to the sound engineers.  This methodology was recommended by the noise Council and Ms Barrett confirmed that this was the approved method for all large-scale  ...  view the full minutes text for item 6.

TO CONSIDER AN APPLICATION FOR A CONVERSION AND VARIATION OF A PREMISES LICENCE: Coach & Horses, 862 High Road N17

TO CONSIDER AN APPLICATION FOR A CONVERSION AND VARIATION OF A PREMISES LICENCE: Coach & Horses, 862 High Road N17 (Agenda Item 6)

               The Licensing Officer presented this report.

               The Legal Adviser raised a preliminary issue in connection with the fact that the application form contained requests in Boxes M and O of the operation schedule “to serve alcohol thirty minutes before and thirty minutes after any live Football World Cup, European Cup, England Test Matches, Rugby World Cup”.   The Legal Adviser advised the Committee that the requests were non-specific as regards timings as potentially the “thirty minutes before and thirty minutes after” could occur at any time of the day or night.  The Applicant’s Solicitor demurred on the grounds that the events were named and would take place on specific dates and the Applicant wanted the opportunity to open the premises to the public as requested in order to show the televised live event at whatever time of day that it may be showing.  The Legal Adviser then advised the Committee that in the circumstances, it would be a matter for the Committee to decide whether the potential proposed openings were sufficiently specific to enable the Authority to consider the potential impact on the licensing objectives.

               The Legal Adviser confirmed that, under the 1964 Act, the original Justices Licenses had applied a blanket policy to licensed premises in Haringey to open from 11 am on Saturdays; therefore 10 am opening on Saturdays was not covered by ‘grandfather rights’  This had been confirmed in an email from the Court which was available for members’ inspection.

               There were no objections from Interested Parties but the police had made an objection to 10 am opening on Saturday and Sunday match days and asked for four conditions to be put on the Licence as set out in section 6.1 of the report. The Police outlined their partnership scheme with the licensed premises around the Tottenham Hotspur Football ground and their anti-hooliganism initiative called ‘Tackling Crime Together’ and confirmed that they had enjoyed a good working relationship with the Coach and Horses over the past 10 years with the current Licensee (the proposed Designated Premises Supervisor).  The Police also conceded to the Applicant’s assertion that there had not been any trouble with the Applicant’s premises over the past 10 years.

               The Solicitor for the Applicant stated that under paragraph 13.26 of the DCMS Guidance, the Committee was not entitled to restrict the Applicant’s Grandfather rights.  The Legal Adviser queried this point and informed the Hearing that under Schedule 8, paragraph 3 to the Licensing Act 2003, the police had a right to object to an application for Conversion.  The Legal Adviser asked for clarification as to whether the Police objection related both to the applications for Conversion and for Variation, as the Committee had been convened to hear an application for Conversion and Variation.  The Police Representative confirmed that the Police objection applied both to the Conversion and Variation.  The Applicant’s Solicitor then stated that  ...  view the full minutes text for item 7.

390 West Green Road N15: To consider an application for a conversion and variation of a Premises Licence.

Withdrawn from Hearing

230 Archway Road N6: To consider an application for a conversion and variation of a Premises Licence.

Withdrawn from Hearing

To consider an application for a conversion and variation of a Premises Licence.

Withdrawn from Hearing

To consider any new items admitted under item 2 above.

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