Agenda and draft minutes

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To receive any apologies for absence.

There were none.

The Chair will consider the admission of any late items of Urgent Business. (Late items will be considered under the agenda item where they appear. New items will be dealt with under item 7 below).

There was no urgent business

There were no declarations of interest.  

The Sub-Committee will first hear from the Licensing Officer.  After that, the applicant will present their application and the Sub-Committee and objectors will have the opportunity to ask questions. Then, the objectors will present their case and the Sub-Committee and objectors will have the opportunity to ask questions. 

All parties will then have the opportunity to sum up, and then the meeting will conclude to allow the Sub-Committee to deliberate and reach a decision. This decision will then be provided in writing within five working days of this meeting.

The Chair provided a summary of the procedure for the meeting.  

To consider an application for a review of a premises licence.

Upon opening the meeting, Mr Robert Sutherland, representing the premises stated that the premises licence holder was Mr Ahmet Karagoz. Ms Daliah Barrett, Licensing Team Leader, stated that an application had been submitted to transfer the licence and to vary the DPS to Mr Karagoz. This application was due to be heard on 12 June 2023.

Later in the meeting, the Legal advisor to the Sub-Committee would advise that if an application to vary the DPS and transfer the licence had been made appropriately, then the considered DPS holder would be Mr Ahmet Karagoz from the date of the application.

Presentation by the Licensing Officer

Ms Daliah Barrett, Licensing Team Leader, informed the Sub-Committee that:

·           The application was a review that had been submitted by Trading Standards on the basis of the prevention of crime and disorder and the protection of children from harm. The premises was found to be stocking for sale or controlled medication and non-compliant e-cigarettes. There was also provision of nitrous oxide to patrons who then consumed the substance outside the premises, leading to nuisance and anti-social behaviour.

·           The objective of prevention of crime and disorder was also being of being raised and Public Health and other responsible authorities had also said that prevention of public nuisance should be added to the review due to the anti-social behaviour that resulted from the operation of the premises as well as the public safety objective due to the illegal illicit goods that could be harmful.

·           Trading Standards believed that Ms Yengin was not promoting the prevention of crime and disorder licencing objective due to the unlawful activities which included the illicit tobacco that had been seized, breaches of licence conditions, selling of non-compliant vapes, e-cigarettes, erectile dysfunction tablets without medical registration, the selling of drug paraphernalia and the selling of nitrous oxide.

·           The application sought to request the Sub-Committee to consider a suspension of the licence and to impose additional conditions.

·           Ms Yengin and those associated with the business had sought to break the law without regard over a period of time, including from other premises they operated in the borough of Enfield.

·           Ms Yengin’s husband had a history of selling illicit tobacco and alcohol and other non-duty paid items. Their operation was mainly family with licences being transferred amongst family and associates.

·           Representations had been made by the Police, the Licencing Authority, Public Health and Noise and Nuisance. Representations had also been received from all three ward councillors and residents.

·           Ms Yengin had run other licensed premises in the borough of Enfield, which had been subject to review applications.

In response to questions, Ms Barrett informed the Sub-Committee that: 

·           The licence review process formally commenced on 16 February 2023 not 17 March 2023.

·           She would not object to Mr Sutherland that he and Ms Yengin had been present at the meeting listed on paragraph 5.4 of the report, but Ms Yengin had not been registered as having attended the meeting.

Presentation by the applicant

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To consider any items of urgent business as identified at item 3.

There were no new items of urdent business.