Agenda item

Deputations/Petitions/Questions

To consider any requests received in accordance with Standing Orders.

Minutes:

Deputation 1

Victoria Ward presented the deputation to Cabinet. The key points of the deputation are summarised as follows:

 

  • LTNs were not in the Labour manifesto and nobody voted for them. It was claimed that before LTNs were introduced, 56% of residents did not want them and that, since then, the administration had failed to bring the public along with them on this journey.
  • LTNs were based on DfT data that was withdrawn, due to a catalogue of errors. The Cabinet Member had advised residents that it was all about the data. However, the deputation party contended that every piece of data that had been used in support of LTNs had been discredited. Cabinet was asked to read the data and to understand it before pushing ahead.
  • It was put forward that at a meeting in February, the Leader and Cabinet Member dismissed those opposing LTNs as alt-right and climate change deniers. This was a wholly unfair characterisation and showed contempt for residents.
  • The interim report sought to simply support the policy, rather than interrogate it
  • The main justifications for LTNs were summarised as; a comprehensive consultation, to reduce pollution, to help people live active and more healthier lives and to reduce collisions. It was suggested that all of these had failed and that rather: There had been a negligible impact on pollution; cycling had reduced since LTNs were created; there was no data available around collisions but that traffic had increased on roads.
  • The other key justification given for introducing LTNs was around to reduce rat running. It was suggested that the success of this goal was undermined by poor data for the following reasons:
    • The baseline was taken after the introduction of the Enfield Bowes LTN, so traffic on boundary roads had already increased
    • The technology used did not count cars travelling under 10km, none of the sitting traffic is counted and the detail behind this has not been released
    • The way cars were counted for the baseline inflated the number of cars registered inside the LTNs prior to the change, which was admitted in the report but dismissed.
    • Even if the car count was down, it was suggested that the Council did not track how far those cars are travelling. Ms Ward advised that she travelled 4.4km further every time she left the house, so the car count was meaningless

 

  • It was commented that the increase in traffic on boundary roads had directly led to a reduction in the number of buses and increased journey times.
  • Government funding for the schemes had been dropped, they were widely acknowledged as being badly implemented and counterproductive. It was commented that the Transport Secretary told councils on Sunday to withdraw unpopular schemes.
  • The Council had received 2.5k formal objections to the scheme and public opposition to the scheme was reflected in reduced a vote share at recent bye-elections.
  • The deputation party requested that Cabinet look at the data in detail, not just the summary, and that they did not just nod the report through. The deputation party also requested a meeting with the Director of Environment and Resident Experience, as it was not felt that the experience of residents was reflected in the report. 

 

The following arose in discussion of the deputation:

  1. The Leader clarified that the decision to proceed with LTNs was taken by Cabinet, prior to the 2022 election and that the election took place against a background of LTN having been agreed.
  2. The Leader clarified that the meeting referred to was a Labour party meeting and that the topic of conversation at this meeting was not LTNs.
  3. The Cabinet sought clarification over the fact that residents have fed back that LTNs had improved road safety and whether the deputation party were concerned about the risks to road safety of re-directing traffic through residential roads. It was suggested that in general, areas with LTNs had halved the number of road injuries. In response, the deputation party advised that all roads in Haringey were residential and that LTNs had simply moved the problems from one location to another. The deputation party agreed that they would be in favour or more speed restrictions in built up areas but advocated that road safety also had to be balanced with other considerations such as women feeling unsafe at night in roads with LTNs.
  4. The Cabinet raised the issue of air pollution, and the inequality that existed with air pollution disproportionately effecting the most deprived areas, in which 60% of residents did not own a car. The deputation party were asked whether they agreed that strong action needed to be taken on air pollution. In response, they advised that they did not agree that LTNs reduced pollution and that there was no evidence to support this. The deputation party also set out that the use of percentages in this context was problematic due to the fact that the east of the borough was significantly more populated than the west. The Deputation party set out that because the Council had done very little engagement, it felt like it was telling people what was good for them rather than asking them.

 

Cllr Hakata, Deputy Leader of the Council and Cabinet Member for Climate Action, Environment and Transport provided a response to the points raised by the deputation party. A summary of this response is set out below:

  1. The Cabinet Member advised that the network of LTNs was agreed as part of the Walking & Cycling Action Plan, which had engendered a strong sense of people for and against even at that early stage.
  2. In response to suggestions that there was no problem, the Cabinet Member asserted that there definitely was a problem in terms of road deaths, social isolation of young people and pollution. It was suggested that even most drivers in the borough would agree that there was a serious problem around congestion in the borough.
  3. It was commented that if the water people drank was as dirty as the air they breathed, people would not drink it. Public Health England have advised that poor air quality was the number one public health crisis in the country.
  4. Inrix have advised that that London is the most congested city in the world and that on average drivers sat for 156 hours in traffic in a year and that this was up from 148 hours in 2021.
  5. The Cabinet Member also highlighted obesity issues in the borough as well as the impact of congestion on health and mental health. The Cabinet Member set out that he categorically did not agree with the idea that people were not sitting in traffic before LTNs. Congestion was a long-standing issue.
  6. In relation to the data, the Cabinet Member advised that they had only been using certain data up until now and that the amount of data available was going to increase. Up until now, the only data source had been ATCs (rubber tubes) and these had recorded every vehicle travelling over them at every speed. VivaCity cameras would also be used going forward which were 24hr AI multi-modal cameras recording traffic at junctions. Bus data from TfL was also available for use and this, crucially, was not collected by Haringey but by TfL.
  7. The Cabinet Member identified that the bus cameras had shown that, apart from a very small number of locations, there had been a significant improvement in traffic and that journey times had down back down to pre-LTN levels, and in some cases to better than pre-LTN levels.
  8. The Cabinet Member asserted that the Council had done a huge amount of consultation in relation to LTNs, possibly more than any other set of schemes, and that it would continue to engage with residents going forward.

 

Deputation 2

 

Tara Hawkins presented the second deputation on how the LTN schemes have negatively and detrimentally affected businesses and customers.

 

Tara Hawkins contended that the Council were not acting in accordance with their pledge to support businesses and were causing the destruction of business as a direct result of the implementation of LTNs introduced last year.

 

The deputation further contended that the scheme was an ill-thought-out arrangement, and no businesses were involved in its consultation.

 

The deputation asked that Cabinet reflect upon how businesses take years and decades to build up, and that business owners invest significant amounts of time, energy and money in developing and expanding their business.

 

She explained that in order to achieve growth businesses, seek to attract markets located further afield and the introduction of the LTNs had significantly disrupted this business model resulting in a reduction in revenue. Customers and suppliers had to navigate circuitous/complex routes to get to shops adding to their journey times, together with managing the increase in traffic, parking restrictions, and fines. This had resulted in customers not coming to the area.

 

The deputation highlighted that survey results conducted by a Dental practice in the Bounds Green LTN between April – May of this year and which had produced the following data:

 

  • More than 50% of the clients visit by car.
  • Nearly 40% travel from more than 4 miles away
    60% travel from outside of the borough
  • 86% said LTNs would not make them change their mode of transport.

 

There were further LTN impact statements referred to from business owners in the borough.

 

  • A Driving Instructor - who was no longer able to accept many new pupils due to traffic.

 

  • A Café Owner in Myddleton Road with a 50% reduction in business, after having expanded who was unable to pay bills and had to get a charity involved to deal with the legal side of this.

 

  • A Tottenham Business Owner who had seen a 40% reduction in business after working hard for 15 years we spent building customer based which has vanished because of the LTN Scheme.

 

  • The deputation felt that none of the reasons for implementing the introduction of the LTNs stood up to scrutiny. These were implemented soon after covid restrictions ended which was then followed by the cost-of-living crisis, and businesses had not been given any chance of recovery.

 

The deputation felt that the experimental scheme had seriously impacted people’s livelihoods for the worst. In conclusion, the deputation felt that there was nothing to support the continued presence of LTNs in the borough, apart from the funding that the Council was collecting in fines.  The deputation called on the Cabinet to remove all LTN’s as they are causing huge economic damage.

 

In response to question from Cllr Brabazon, Tara Hawkins explained that she had to move her business from Myddleton Rd to Crouch End because as soon as the LTN were introduced her business sales had reduced by 50% and in particular she had  lost customers from Haringey.

 

The Cabinet Member for Climate Action, Environment, and Transport and Deputy Leader of the Council responded, focussing on the data collected and the experience of business in the LTN areas in Haringey and wider, in London, where semi pedestrianisation and pedestrianisation schemes had been brought in. The following was outlined:

 

  • Data analysed on business transactions and footfall across the town centres in the borough, both in and outside LTN areas, showed all were experiencing an economic downturn due to cost-of-living crisis and energy prices. They all followed the same trajectory with dips and recoveries, but essentially all were following the same pattern.

 

  • Reference to a business area in Waltham Forest and Hackney Church Street which had implemented their LTN schemes much earlier than Haringey with similar objections but which were now a thriving high streets. The traders in these areas had previously had similar concerns to those expressed in the deputation.

 

  • Contested the understanding that trade to businesses emanates from car journeys. There were studies and surveys that conveyed that traders overestimate the number of people coming to their businesses by car and underestimate the number that are coming by foot. Most residents were searching for local provision such as dentists that they could reach on foot.

 

  • It was important for residents to access their local provision such as dentist and not be competing with customers outside of the local area for access. 

 

In conclusion the data on footfall and card transactions did not indicate a greater impact on business activities in LTN areas compared to the other businesses in non LTN areas.

 

Deputation 3

 

Cathy Stastny presented the third deputation.  The main points of the deputation are summarised as follows:

·         The dedicated group to discuss the exemptions procedures were not made clear to members of the Joint Partnership Board, nor were the procedures collectively agreed to.

·         Whilst the new process would exempt all Blue Badge holders, it was stated that not all disabled people held Blue Badges and even those who did, were at the centre of a network of people supporting them, who would not benefit from any exemptions to the scheme.  It was felt that exemptions should apply to all people working with and caring for people with disabilities.

·         The LTNs caused more traffic and slower journey times, and it was contested that this caused people to breathe more polluted air than before.

·         LTNs has been scrapped across the capital, the Government had stopped funding all projects which involved the creation of car free zones, which meant that Council would now have to spend money on this scheme.

·         The residents did not want LTNs and urged the Cabinet to end this scheme and work with residents to find equitable public transport led solutions.

 

The Cabinet Member for Climate Action, Environment, and Transport and Deputy Leader of the Council responded to the deputation:

·         It was important to keep in mind the purpose of the LTNs – air pollution was one of the worst impacts of motor traffic and the most vulnerable people in the borough needed to be protected.

·         The schemes had already shown improvements in the borough and would continue to work to discourage people from taking unnecessary car journeys and clear the roads for people who depended on car travel.

 

The Leader thanked all parties for attending.